Thanks - did a search for Handbrake - no luck
frameserve - no hits

will try to do a manual search - any idea about when this was?
Have had big problems using HB for a 4K file - didn;t seem happy, but that was coming directly off my drive.
Dennis

Mp4 @ 2 Mbs. Looks fantastic with the right encoder. Tmpg.

Here's the thread that discusses this: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=907685&Replies=60

Okay, found it online. Very cool trick! Thanks for that.
Still trying to get a sense of what data rates and file extensions will be safe across SMART TV platforms...
DM

Thanks - TMPGEnc.net shows v.2.525 but doesn't mention Win 8 (or even 7) Is that the version you recommend?
d.

@dhmiller - I would look at 8000kbps for video and 192khz for audio as a starting point and see how that works. If it works well, I would save it as a preset in Handbrake and then use that profile for rendering other videos destined for the TV's.

I'm glad I don't have to deal with every Smart TV in the world but I have a number of Blu-ray players, media players and TV sets that I use to play my video either using DLNA or locally via USB. Most recently, I've been using the same wrapper that's used for Blu-ray, .m2ts. I render the video using the Mainconcept MPEG-2 or AVC render templates or the Sony AVC template. Since my camera records PCM audio, I try to keep the audio but I usually also include a Dolby .ac3 stereo track because Windows Media Player doesn't seem to like PCM audio in an .m2ts wrapper. I assemble the whole mess in tsMuxer. The results look like this:

General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : H:\Video\2014-07-12 Swim Rusch Park.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 1.00 GiB
Duration : 6mn 8s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 23.3 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 6mn 8s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 20.5 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 22.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.412
Stream size : 900 MiB (88%)

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 6mn 8s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 16.9 MiB (2%)
Language : English

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Duration : 6mn 8s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 67.5 MiB (7%)
Language : English


On a wired connection, I've never had an issue with total bit rates less than ~35 mbps.

We routinely watch recorded over-the-air shows from the server over the I/P network using any of the devices I mentioned earlier. My observation: If a TV has a tuner and can play ATSC channels it should be able to play the same video and audio in the right wrapper. The bit rate of these channels are </= 19.3mbps.
Details of the files after VideoReDo Quickstream Fix :

General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : G:\TV 2015\Person of Interest\Person of Interest-2015-01-13-(Control-Alt-Delete).m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 5.67 GiB
Duration : 43mn 24s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 18.7 Mbps

Video
ID : 49 (0x31)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 43mn 24s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 17.5 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Active Format Description : Full frame 16:9 image
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.281
Time code of first frame : 00:00:00;00
Time code source : Group of pictures header
Stream size : 5.32 GiB (94%)
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
ID : 52 (0x34)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 43mn 24s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 119 MiB (2%)
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 49 (0x31)-CC1
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : EIA-608
Muxing mode : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 43mn 24s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #2
ID : 49 (0x31)-1
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : EIA-708
Muxing mode : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 43mn 24s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #3
ID : 49 (0x31)-2
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : EIA-708
Muxing mode : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 43mn 24s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

I use Handbrake and I'm impressed with the output at lower bit rates but I recently decided for my personal use at home, if I can afford a 4K TV, I can afford another hard disk and I don't have to skimp on bit rate.

P.S. My Sony devices don't play my camera files which are in a .MOV wrapper. I just accept it as a given and move on with my life.

Thanks for the info. HB does a much better job than Vegas at the same or even lower bit rates. Made a file at 10 K and it looks fantastic on my Samsung -same file doesn;t play on my Panasonic, though
There's no audio in this video - do you think some SMART TVs might not accept a file without audio - the Samsung just reports there's no audio track and moves on.
Might add a blank audio track and see if the Panasonic will play it.
DM

Thanks for the info. This project needs to live on a USB device that will be sold to clients for playback who knows where. I'm also going to post both higher (for computer playback) and lower bit rate versions in case anyone runs into a jam. I think I'll stick with 10 Mbps version as the default and see how it goes.
Thank again.
d

Here are some past threads that discuss various aspects of delivery on USB.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=905514

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?Forum=4&MessageID=898858

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=906550

Not at a computer as of now, but that version does not sound right. I use the masterworks at 2 MBS. The quality is astounding and the data rate is unbelievable low. This is for HD. If you using higher rates you are using lame or old algorithms.