What it allows you to do:
Specify a time selection.
Run a script to fire up SmartSound
Do what you'd normally do in SmartSound re selecting music, modes etc
Send to Vegas.
What I do at present:
Make a time selection (to establish the time required)
Fire up Smartsound
Type in the time selection
Do what I'd normally do in Smartsound
Export the track
Import into Vegas
So it saves me two very minor steps - typing in the time and importing the music.
The one obvious thing it should do to make this much more attractive is to enable me to right-click on an already created "Smartsound" event and put me back into Smartsound editing that (as I seem to recall happened with CineScore) - in other words allow me to edit my Smartsound "composition" as I edit my video.
The other obvious thing that would be useful for many (though I probably wouldn't use it) is to send a proxy render of the video into Smartsound so that one can line up the beats/hits to the video.
What am I missing? Does my $50 really only save me a couple of clicks? Surely it's not that disappointing?
EDIT: OK one thing I missed is that it places any markers from your Vegas Timeline onto the SmartSound timeline - a genuinely useful facility, given that it doesn't create a proxy of the video. But a far cry from being worth $50.
As a long time SS user, I agree with you both: I've been waiting for a fully integrated plug-in, and this ain't it. Many years ago I first encountered SS as a 'module' of Pinnacle Studio, and despite my pulling hair out because of that horrid NLE, the music generation was very nicely and tightly integrated: stretch on timeline, scrub, pick variations, identify in/out points, etc. When I get to scoring now, I usually have Vegas and SS open on my dual monitors and proceed as Tim outlined.
I've been out for a walk for a few minutessince my last post, and the more I think about it, the angrier I get. I've also used SmartSound for several years over which I've spent a few hundred pounds on music and the SonicFire software. I'm only a hobbyist, but i do this as I respect copyright and I've always considered the library has a fantastic selection and the software is excellent at what it does.
Maybe Smartsound and Sony cannot agree terms for proper integration (in the way some other products have - NewBlueFX, HitFilm - I don't know about Boris, I can't afford it so I don't like to get tempted by looking) or maybe the architectures are so different that better integration is not possible so maybe this is the best SmartSound can come up with.
Fair play, if that's the case, but this level of integration is the sort of thing I would have expected them to give away for free to Vegas users by way of an apology for not being able to integrate better - not charge half the price of the very good SonicFire Pro software which one needs to buy to make this work anyway.
Surely they make their money from the sale of music anyway and charging for this is more likely to be a barrier to entry for new customers.
If I haven't calmed down by tomorrow, i feel a letter to Kevin Klinger coming on.
Tim, I too am a SmartSound user. I regularly render a very low res video to import into SonicFire, then output the tailored music for placement on the Vegas TL. I can't imagine paying anything for the current plugin. I would like to be able to cleanly "round trip" a sound track and video proxy between Vegas and SonicFire, and if it did this well it would probably be worth $50 to me.
Here is how I would hope it would work:
1. Create a selection in Vegas.
2. Automatically send the video proxy to SF (option to create new SF project, or replace in existing remembered project).
3. Create music track in SF and export back to Vegas timeline as new take.
4. Repeat 2-3 as required.
I was waiting to reply to your post until after I heard back from Smartsound Support - was trying to clarify process.
Essentially, to edit a piece of SS music already on the Vegas t/l:
1. Select the music on the t/l
2. Invoke the "Add - Edit SmartSound Music" script.
This will open SFP and place the music on the SFP t/l
3. Edit/change whatever ... then in SFP
4. File -> Send to Plug-in Host and select SONY Vegas.
>Essentially, to edit a piece of SS music already on the Vegas t/l:
Tom, in my case most re-edits back in SFP result from changes to my video in Vegas. So I need to get the revised video over to SFP. Does the script place the updated video AND audio back in SFP, or just the music? If it does both I am definitely interested.
Thanks Tom - that's great. Much more useful. I take back my criticism of the add-on (but re-double my criticism of the marketing, which didn't explain this crucial point)
I don't work quite the same way as Jerry - uising video within SonicFire) but as a supplementary question, if one moves the markers on the Vegas timeline, will the SFP timeline show the position of the new markers?
My quick test shows that the marker is transferred to the SFP t/l when you first place the music, but after moving the marker in Vegas and then going to 'edit' the music in SFP, no marker is brought in.
Perhaps it's working as intended. I'll ask support.