(Solved) Any way to remove source from project media 'without' open a project?

Gabriel_Ahn wrote on 11/24/2016, 9:15 AM

Hello all. I'm using Vegas Pro 13 build 453.

It may sounds weird but here is the problem.

I recently added a mp4 file that filename contains a word "Générique de Supercopter" on my project. No idea what language it is but in fact there was no problem to import it (used drag and drop, not import menu), edit it, and save with it.

However when I tired to open my project again, process stopped and no response, then crash. I tried to create new blank project and import my original .veg, it actually work except error message regard this mp4 file. I also tried move this mp4 to another folder and rename it, so Vegas asked me to replace or ignore, tried both ways but still no response and crash.

So, I highly suspect that the filename in 'project media' on my project causing the problem. Want to remove it but can't since I'm not able to actual project itself.

Is there any possible way to remove the source from project media 'without' open the project?

 

SOLVED

It was amazingly simple. I just create a new blank project and 'Close project media window (or panel)' and open my original project. YES! It works! I can open! However it still CRASH when re-open project media window. This is not the ideal solution but at least I can keep editing via drag and drop sources into timeline.

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xberk wrote on 11/24/2016, 9:32 AM

Did you try to open the backup file?  veg.bak?

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Gabriel_Ahn wrote on 11/24/2016, 10:00 AM

Did you try to open the backup file?  veg.bak?

Yes. bak is exactly same as original one. Can't open.

dxdy wrote on 11/24/2016, 10:49 AM

I would guess the issue is the filename, the two accented letters. Try using a binary file editor (not a text editor), search for the filename, change the two letters to something else and save the changes. Of course you will want to do this to a copy of the .veg, not the original in case someone comes up with a better method.

Gabriel_Ahn wrote on 11/24/2016, 11:14 AM

I would guess the issue is the filename, the two accented letters. Try using a binary file editor (not a text editor), search for the filename, change the two letters to something else and save the changes. Of course you will want to do this to a copy of the .veg, not the original in case someone comes up with a better method.

Okay. It sounds difficult to me. Anyway I googled and installed Notepad++, opened my project and lots of broken texts are shown. Could you please help what should I do from now? I'm not friendly with any coding ans programming.

xberk wrote on 11/24/2016, 2:05 PM

Interesting problem to debug a Vegas .veg file.  Notepad++ doesn't seem to be the right tool but I could be wrong as I don't know that software in detail   .. You could try the suggestions in this thread first:  https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/corrupted-veg-file--96253/

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Former user wrote on 11/24/2016, 4:08 PM

Since you can get the project to load without the Project Media window open you might try resetting the Project Media "Views" state to the minimum to confirm it's the filename and not something else with the file. The following is with VP12, so I will have to assume it works the same with VP13 / VP14.

  1. Open a blank project.
  2. Turn the Project Media window back on.
  3. On the Project Media toolbar set the project media "views" options to "Lists" and turn off "Meta Tags"
  4. Now close and reopen Vegas (it should remember the state of the Project Media Views settings.)
  5. Now try and open the original VEG file.
     
  6. If that works, then continue with this list
  7. Jump back to Windows.
  8. Create a copy of the MP4 file with a "standard" Windows filename structure.
  9. Return to Vegas.
  10. Right-click the old file in the Project Media list.
  11. Choose "Replace" and navigate to newly created (renamed) copy of the original file.
  12. That will replace the old version with the new version in the project and on the timeline.
  13. Save this VEG with a NEW name (don't over-write the original).
  14. Close and Re-open Vegas.
  15. Try setting the Project Media "views" back to "Thumbnail"
  16. If that works, then try setting "Meta Tags" back to on.
  17. If either 15 or 16 fail, then the issue is probably with the MP4 itself and not the filename.
Gabriel_Ahn wrote on 11/24/2016, 4:28 PM

Since you can get the project to load without the Project Media window open you might try resetting the Project Media "Views" state to the minimum to confirm it's the filename and not something else with the file. The following is with VP12, so I will have to assume it works the same with VP13 / VP14.

  1. Open a blank project.
  2. Turn the Project Media window back on.
  3. On the Project Media toolbar set the project media "views" options to "Lists" and turn off "Meta Tags"
  4. Now close and reopen Vegas (it should remember the state of the Project Media Views settings.)
  5. Now try and open the original VEG file.
     
  6. If that works, then continue with this list
  7. Jump back to Windows.
  8. Create a copy of the MP4 file with a "standard" Windows filename structure.
  9. Return to Vegas.
  10. Right-click the old file in the Project Media list.
  11. Choose "Replace" and navigate to newly created (renamed) copy of the original file.
  12. That will replace the old version with the new version in the project and on the timeline.
  13. Save this VEG with a NEW name (don't over-write the original).
  14. Close and Re-open Vegas.
  15. Try setting the Project Media "views" back to "Thumbnail"
  16. If that works, then try setting "Meta Tags" back to on.
  17. If either 15 or 16 fail, then the issue is probably with the MP4 itself and not the filename.

Thanks jdw.

I tried your solution just now, unfortunately, it stucks on step 5 same as before. It makes me quite sure that  the problem is occured by filename.

Gabriel_Ahn wrote on 11/24/2016, 4:42 PM

Interesting problem to debug a Vegas .veg file.  Notepad++ doesn't seem to be the right tool but I could be wrong as I don't know that software in detail   .. You could try the suggestions in this thread first:  https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/corrupted-veg-file--96253/

Thank you xberk. The article you mentioned is actually the thing that I tried before posting this question. None of those suggestions were worked to me.

My project file works perfect now since I closed 'project media window'. In any case I re-open it, Vegas crash immediately. One thing that I found is the word "Générique de Supercopter" on filename is French, so I changed Vegas default language to French via modifying registry and open my veg again, but crash. It may not just simple language compability issue, something further that can't understand.

Marco. wrote on 11/24/2016, 4:48 PM

Curious – could you offer this project file for download? Maybe someone else could open it, delete this certain file name and re-send to you.

NickHope wrote on 11/24/2016, 10:57 PM

Notepad++ probably needs the Hex Editor plugin to do it.

Agree with Marco. Share it via Google Drive, Dropbox public folder etc. and someone here probably has the skills to do this quickly. .veg smiles are small.

xberk wrote on 11/25/2016, 10:56 AM

I haven't used a Hex editor for years.  It was interesting to see if I could debug a .veg file.  I did.  With ease.  I used "Free Hex Editor Neo". The file names in the Project media were visible.  I changed one character of a file name and then did a save as.  When I opened the altered veg file,  Vegas could not find the file so it prompted me for a new location.  So this approach may work if the file name is the problem.

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