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harry-worth wrote on 6/4/2023, 2:19 AM

What is the specification of your PC/Laptop?

naren17 wrote on 6/4/2023, 2:25 AM

Thanks harry-worth!

They are:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10980HK CPU @ 2.40GHz   3.10 GHz

RAM: 32.0 GB (31.8 GB usable)

64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Windows 11 Home (22H2)

Free Hard drive: 214 Gb

RogerS wrote on 6/4/2023, 2:35 AM

You don't have a GPU?

Please try one of the benchmarks in my signature to see how it performs compared to similar systems.

What media are you using? https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

For uploading to Vimeo or YouTube first render to a template like MagixAVC or MagixHEVC and then upload via the website.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

naren17 wrote on 6/4/2023, 5:23 AM

Thank you, RogerS

the graphics cards on my machine are:

Inter(R) UHD Graphics and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (and Citrix Indirect Display Adapter)

 

I will follow the benchmarks.

The format was .mp4

Thank you!

naren17 wrote on 6/4/2023, 5:28 AM

General
Complete name                            : D:\webinars\paed-neuro-onc\day-2\klein - 1of2.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 195 MiB
Duration                                 : 24 min 30 s
Overall bit rate                         : 1 114 kb/s
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Writing application                      : Bandicut 3.6.8.711 / Cutter / HS

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 5 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 5 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=12
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 24 min 30 s
Bit rate                                 : 983 kb/s
Width                                    : 4 096 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 1.896
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.004
Stream size                              : 172 MiB (88%)
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 24 min 30 s
Duration_LastFrame                       : -16 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 126 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
Channel layout                           : M
Sampling rate                            : 32.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 22.1 MiB (11%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1

naren17 wrote on 6/4/2023, 5:34 AM

General
  Name: klein - 1of2.mp4
  Folder: D:\webinars\paed-neuro-onc\day-2
  Type: AVC
  Size: 199.90 MB (204,700,288 bytes)
  Created: 27 May 2023, 22:39:15
  Modified: 27 May 2023, 22:39:16
  Accessed: 28 May 2023, 15:11:58
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 00:24:30.200, 25.000 fps progressive, 4096x2160x12, AVC
  Audio: 00:24:30.192, 32,000 Hz, Mono, AAC

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 20.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 20.0 (Build 403)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

RogerS wrote on 6/4/2023, 5:55 AM

For the second one, why is AVC in a MP4 wrapper opening with compoundplug and not so4compound?
In preferences/ file i o make sure legacy AVC is not enabled. That will let you Intel UHD iGPU do decoding which should speed things up. The reason to disable it is if there are stability issues.

The bandicut file is heavily compressed (4K file that's 24 min and only 200MB. 4K from my camera is about 700MB/minute).

You could try re-encoding it to a less compressed AVC file (or ProRes if you have a lot of diskspace) using software like https://www.shutterencoder.com/ and may find it plays back much faster in VEGAS.

If you do a benchmark we can see if your system is performing as it should.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

j-v wrote on 6/4/2023, 6:01 AM

@naren17
May not be a problem to render with normal speed unless you use an older rendertemplate .
Can you give a screenshot of your used (customized?) rendertemplate?

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 23H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
560.70 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2127
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 560.70 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2127
Vegas software: VP 10 to 21 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

naren17 wrote on 6/4/2023, 6:16 AM

Very helpful, thank you, RogerS!
 

I have now disabled legacy AVC. I have also downloaded Shutter encoder. Is ProRes the best proxymedia for Vegas pro. Any particular ProRes? Thank you!

naren17 wrote on 6/4/2023, 6:18 AM

Thank you, j-v!

j-v wrote on 6/4/2023, 6:38 AM

You are using the old Mainconcept codec that takes longer than the other possibilities you must have :

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 23H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
560.70 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2127
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 560.70 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2127
Vegas software: VP 10 to 21 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

naren17 wrote on 6/4/2023, 6:46 AM

Thank you , j-v! very helpful!

RogerS wrote on 6/4/2023, 8:48 AM

Yes, I think ProRes is the best format as it's lightly compressed and plays back very well in VEGAS. If it's an 8-bit source, 422 should be adequate.

For rendering settings yours are fine for 720p. For final renders I also use MagixAVC with Mainconcept for better quality at the same bitrate. QSV and NVENC are way faster though are lower quality for the same bitrate (if file size matters). Experiment and see what's acceptable to you. If there are artifacts raise the maximum bitrate amount.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

naren17 wrote on 6/4/2023, 5:56 PM

RogerS, excellent thank you!
I will stick with Vegas Pro, with such support in the forum!