Speed up rendering with XAVC template

Julius_ wrote on 10/2/2018, 9:19 AM

Hi,

My footage is 3840x2160 59.94 fps

I render it out using the Sony S Long XAVC

My only problem is that it takes forever to render, and there is no option for GPU. I'm on a i7-6800. A 3 hour footage is at 17 hours and still rendering! Is there a faster template that I can use that still gives me excellent video quality. I really like the Sony S XAVC, but it's too slow. Thanks

 

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fr0sty wrote on 10/2/2018, 9:22 AM

Try Magix Intermediate Codec and see if you get better results. I'm sure there's some other codecs others here can recommend as well, like Cineform, Magic YUV, or DNxHR.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

j-v wrote on 10/2/2018, 10:03 AM

My only problem is that it takes forever to render, and there is no option for GPU. I'm on a i7-6800. A 3 hour footage is at 17 hours and still rendering! Is there a faster template that I can use that still gives me excellent video quality.

What is the goal of your export?

This goal is most important to decide which codec and template the best is to use.

 

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Julius_ wrote on 10/2/2018, 12:04 PM

The goal is to be faster...it took over 18 hours...but with the best quality. I usually feed the output to handbrake to reduce the size.

"Magix Intermediate Codec" which template is that?
 

j-v wrote on 10/2/2018, 12:16 PM

Which Vegas version do you work with?
What's the goal to play those by handbrake reduced filesize video's (format?) on?
Own TV. TV station, YT, computer, laptop, smartphone, tablet, big screens with beamer a.s.o.?

 

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
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Julius_ wrote on 10/2/2018, 1:55 PM

Vegas V15.

It's weddings that I give the couple a usb key. I only use handbrake if I need to reduce the size a little bit.

j-v wrote on 10/2/2018, 2:54 PM

You could try to use in VPro 15 the Magix AVC codec with this GPU accelerated default template

With me it renders a file with this template 2,5 x realtime with VPro 15
Your template renders the same file 6 x realtime.
Both files have the extension mp4 and these are the file properties of both

I see no quality difference between the two files ( maybe with the excuse that my eyes are already 72 years old and suffered from a lot of chemo's 😄😇)

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566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Julius_ wrote on 10/2/2018, 6:44 PM

I get a crash when going magix.I tried re-starting and same thing.Card is AMD R9 390

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However if I select the Encode Mode of Mainconcept AVC, it doesn't crash, but it's very slow to render out 4k.

 

How are people rendering out 4K???

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i7-6800 (Intel 3.40GHz, 6 cores)

Windows 10 PRO (up to date)

32GB Ram

MB: x99A Raider, MS-7885 (MSI)

SDD+HDD

AMD Radeon R9 390

Vegas user since V5

Realtek audio

 

fr0sty wrote on 10/2/2018, 7:04 PM

Try to update your GPU drivers, and also make sure you are using the latest version of Vegas 15. I usually use Magix AVC to render out, using NVENC (I have an Nvidia GPU). Render speed is usually pretty fast at 4K. I use HEVC for HDR (Vegas 16). Better quality, but takes longer to encode.

You want to use Magix AVC to deliver the product to the client, as most of them won't have the software necessary to play back XAVC, ProRes, or any of the other less compressed codecs. AVC is pretty much universally compatible. Once you get your GPU acceleration working, you will get better results with AVC encode time. Worst case, you can frame serve to handbrake.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Julius_ wrote on 10/2/2018, 9:18 PM

Using the latest of V15 and updated my drivers to the latest versions...Still crashes with same error. :(

NickHope wrote on 10/2/2018, 9:42 PM
"Magix Intermediate Codec" which template is that?

It's the new name for MAGIX ProRes. But I agree that you should deliver AVC to your customers and not that.