This is what it looks like and it makes a line down the middle. It has horrible

stabliization. Do you know why it renders the video ( this is a jpg) with this line?

Thank you!

@Kimberly-Durecki said: "...when my photographer is going around lets says a kitchen island in a 360 degree circle, he bounces..."

Perhaps you should invest on the front-end?

DJI Ronin-SC Gimbal Stabilizer

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I don't own one.

Already have it, but its not perfect that is why I still need to stabilize. Thanks! Do you know why when I stabilized in Vegas I get the line down the middle of the video as I post above? ( Jpg pic taken from video) Thank you

@Kimberly-Durecki Hi, I'm not sure about modern stabilization apps that are available but some require the fx to be looking at certain parts of the scene & stabilize using those parts as anchor points, if that makes sense, I think that is what Vegas stabilization is doing when it analyses the clip. So if your photographer is rotating there's no constant scene for the stabilization fx to fix on.

There's also cropping after the stabilization to remove the black border that gets created, some fxs can fill this by using frames from other parts of the clip, Vegas's stabilization has Border fill for this type of operation.

This is Mocha Pro stabilizing a short video, I'm not suggesting this plugin, I just want to show the cropping that gets done at the end. I first tracked the card, this part isn't important, like i say Vegas analyses the clip as I think other fxs do but I just wanted to show the process so hopefully it's a bit clearer as to what I said about using an anchor point, the tracked card is the anchor point, Then in the second part I apply stabilization, black bars down the side happen as now the card doesn't move, cropping gets rid of those but reduces the size of the image. This wouldn't work on a video that rotates unless the anchor point stays in view all the time. ..

This a post from a while ago where we tried to stabilize a bird on a branch, the scene isn't rotating like your photographer but it might give some ideas of what stabilization apps are available https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/stabilization--142393/#ca891081

You might want to look for something that smooths rather than stabilizes. 🤔

Thank you. I just don't even know what kind of program I would need. Above reply Steve said Prodad Mercalli so I went to download the trial and of course after downloading the program is no where to be found on my PC. I thought it was a plug in for Vegas as it said for Magix here is the site: https://www.prodad.com/Video-Stabilization-for-Professionals/Mercalli-V6-Plug-Ins-MAGIX-99742,l-us.html I could not find it in Vegas anywhere after downloaded, restarting etc etc. I am at a loss. uggggggggggg lol

@Kimberly-Durecki I should have clarified. The newest version of Mercalli 6 is not yet compatible with Vegas Pro...... Mercalli 5 the previous version was. Here is a link to download the trial and see if it suites you. https://www.prodad.de/support/mercalli/mercalli-50-vegas64bit.exe

Well that explains it. I even sent them a email. I installed it, uninstalled it, installed it, uninstalled it etc. Was driving me crazy. Thank you for letting me know I appreciate it.

Steve, do you have this program and does it work for you? Is it a FX in Vegas? I cant seem to find it if so. Do you know if they still sell it? I looked on the site and this one is not mentioned. Sorry for all the questions. lol

Prodad Mercalli is your best solution....

I have a copy of ReSpeeder, and it beats Vegas Pro Hands Down!!!

The one in Topaz Video AI is very good

Going back a couple of years, a bit of surgery was needed to get Mercalli 5 for Vegas to work in Vegas Pro 20 with a workaround given in https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/mercalli-v5-does-not-show-up-in-vegas-pro-20-after-installing--138222/ (the first comment by j-v).

I had to do the workaround to get Mercalli 4 for Vegas to wok in Vegas Pro 20. I'm not sure that there was any real difference between Merc 4 and 5 for Vegas; indeed, ProDad upgraded Merc 4 SAL to Merc 5 SAL for free because it was only a "technological' update with no new features.

Merc for Vegas should appear in Vegas Pro's Video FX as 'proDAD CMOS Fixr' and 'proDAD Mercalli v5'.

Mercalli 6 was released almost exacly 2 years ago so that an FX for Vegas hasn't been released as yet doesn't augur well in my mind for a Vegas version ever being released.

Mercalli 5 for Vegas is definitely not offered for sale on ProDad's website maybe due to it not working in Vegas Pro 20/21 without the workaround being applied - which wouldn't be possible for those who don't have Vegas Pro 19 or earlier.

Is this a FX for Vegas 20?

Prodad Mercalli is your best solution....

I have a copy of ReSpeeder, and it beats Vegas Pro Hands Down!!!

The one in Topaz Video AI is very good

Is this a FX for vegas 20?

Going back a couple of years, a bit of surgery was needed to get Mercalli 5 for Vegas to work in Vegas Pro 20 with a workaround given in https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/mercalli-v5-does-not-show-up-in-vegas-pro-20-after-installing--138222/ (the first comment by j-v).

I had to do the workaround to get Mercalli 4 for Vegas to wok in Vegas Pro 20. I'm not sure that there was any real difference between Merc 4 and 5 for Vegas; indeed, ProDad upgraded Merc 4 SAL to Merc 5 SAL for free because it was only a "technological' update with no new features.

Merc for Vegas should appear in Vegas Pro's Video FX as 'proDAD CMOS Fixr' and 'proDAD Mercalli v5'.

Mercalli 6 was released almost exacly 2 years ago so that an FX for Vegas hasn't been released as yet doesn't augur well in my mind for a Vegas version ever being released.

Mercalli 5 for Vegas is definitely not offered for sale on ProDad's website maybe due to it not working in Vegas Pro 20/21 without the workaround being applied - which wouldn't be possible for those who don't have Vegas Pro 19 or earlier.

I think I have to give up. It is not listed anywhere in Vegas. I searched it and went through every FX one by one and nothing. So frustrating. Vegas also has been crashing constantly today on my project over and over. I just will never understand....

Prodad Mercalli is your best solution....

I have a copy of ReSpeeder, and it beats Vegas Pro Hands Down!!!

Does this program do stabilization? I looked it up and seen nothing about that. Thanks. It is a stand alone program?

Which version of VEGAS do you have? 21 Suite comes with Mocha VEGAS, which includes stabilization.

Here's another tutorial, it should work in Mocha VEGAS if I remember right, but this is using the full Mocha Pro plugin.

In the Vegas Suite, stabilization with Mocha works very well. There are special tutorials on YouTube with Elizabeth.

Which version of VEGAS do you have? 21 Suite comes with Mocha VEGAS, which includes stabilization.

Here's another tutorial, it should work in Mocha VEGAS if I remember right, but this is using the full Mocha Pro plugin.

I have Vegas pro 20 and I purchased Mocha Pro years ago, I have version 2020.5 and bought it for tracking and found it so difficult I never used it, waste of $600 at the time. Will the Mocha version I have do the same as your describing? Thanks!

In my opinion, Mocha Pro or Mocha Vegas is not going to do what you are wanting a stabilser to do. You wrote in the original post:

I need this for interior videos of a home when my photographer is going around lets says a kitchen island in a 360 degree circle, he bounces lol I need one that will smooth this and Vegas Stabilization makes it 10x worse then it is.

As you will have seen from the two Mocha tutorials, stabilisation processing is based on an area of the image defined by splines, but that defined area is always within frame even if the camera is moving (like in the 2nd tutorial). This will not be the case for you as the camera is doing a 360 degrees rotation, so no matter what area you define at the outset, that area will soon disapppear out of frame as the camera rotates - then Mocha Stabilisation has nothing to reference in order to continue on after the defined spline area has exited frame. It is possible to continously relocate the splines from one room feature to another as the camera rotates, but that will be very fiddly and might possibly make Mocha jerk as the defined spline area is shifted; or maybe even a whole series of different spline areas covering a small arc of the rotation. I've never tried such a project and somehow doubt that Mocha could cope with it because it can be fickle with some stabilisation tasks.

Last year, I did use the Mocha function in a BCC FX to blur out a flickering TV in some of a 270 degrees pan/rotation shot. It took hours to do because of having to adjust the splines to the TV's edges on almost every frame. To be fair, that was not a stabilistion project, but it does demonstrate that Mocha is not an 'open the FX and hit the Go button' type of product.

It's fairly much the same in Vegas Pro 21 using it's stabiliser in professional or expert mode as it also uses a defined (by splines) area as the basis for stabilisation.

Mercalli is likely to give the best results but as its not available as a plugin for Vegas Pro, you might want to give Mercalli 6 SAL (stand alone) a trial run to see if it improves the video or like Vegas' stabiliser makes it worse.

@Kimberly-Durecki I did some extensive tests a while back in order to stabilize free-hand nature shots taken in 4K with 600mm equivalent shots with my Sony RX10 m4. Obviously a lot of shaking going on with such a tele without tripod... I tried Mercalli standalone, Vegas own stab, Davinci Resolve own stab, Topaz, Happy otter, Mocha Vegas.

For my purpose, I swear now by using Mocha Vegas + PIP for stabilizing, nothing can touch the planar tracking of Mocha. It is a bit of an awkward procedure to use (certainly not a simple button press), but if you do it a few times, the learning curve is worth it. The tutorials mentioned by @fr0sty are very good.

As a side note, the black borders are not an issue to me, as I crop anyway to produce full HD from 4K. This way the birds for example are viewed in the end result in full HD at 1200mm equivalent by the crop, with any black borders if present, gone! 

@bitman  ... I absolutely agree, Mocha is brilliant for some shots like you describe. I've taken shaky handheld shots from a distance of a flag flapping in the wind at the top of a flagpole. Stabilisers such as Mercalli drastically worsen the shot because Merc follows the flapping flag whereas Mocha produces excellent results with the splines targeted to the flagpole only without including any element of the flag.

In my opinion, Mocha Pro or Mocha Vegas is not going to do what you are wanting a stabilser to do. You wrote in the original post:

I need this for interior videos of a home when my photographer is going around lets says a kitchen island in a 360 degree circle, he bounces lol I need one that will smooth this and Vegas Stabilization makes it 10x worse then it is.

As you will have seen from the two Mocha tutorials, stabilisation processing is based on an area of the image defined by splines, but that defined area is always within frame even if the camera is moving (like in the 2nd tutorial). This will not be the case for you as the camera is doing a 360 degrees rotation, so no matter what area you define at the outset, that area will soon disapppear out of frame as the camera rotates - then Mocha Stabilisation has nothing to reference in order to continue on after the defined spline area has exited frame. It is possible to continously relocate the splines from one room feature to another as the camera rotates, but that will be very fiddly and might possibly make Mocha jerk as the defined spline area is shifted; or maybe even a whole series of different spline areas covering a small arc of the rotation. I've never tried such a project and somehow doubt that Mocha could cope with it because it can be fickle with some stabilisation tasks.

Last year, I did use the Mocha function in a BCC FX to blur out a flickering TV in some of a 270 degrees pan/rotation shot. It took hours to do because of having to adjust the splines to the TV's edges on almost every frame. To be fair, that was not a stabilistion project, but it does demonstrate that Mocha is not an 'open the FX and hit the Go button' type of product.

It's fairly much the same in Vegas Pro 21 using it's stabiliser in professional or expert mode as it also uses a defined (by splines) area as the basis for stabilisation.

 

@Kimberly-Durecki I totally agree with what @Dexcon has written here & basically what I was saying in my first comment, once the camera pans around the points that stabilization has fixed on to use as anchor points are lost. Mocha can can do 'unlink' tracking where a scene can pass by & each frame can be cached creating a continuous track but I very much doubt stabilization could be applied to that. the cropping needed would basically make the image disappear & prob blow poor Mocha's mind.

@fr0sty's videos whether that is the full Mocha Pro like I used or Vegas Mocha the subject (person or wall) on screen is the anchor point & is always seen on screen just like the card in my video.