I'll go back and see if I can find that. I was not aware of that option. Thanks for the info, David!

Is there a way to convert the "M" markers to "N" markers, or do I have to do this manually?

There's a Markers to Regions script on the VASST site that should do what you want.

Mike

Thanks, Mike!

Okay, I'm not able to get this to work. What am I doing wrong?

I've got 1 hour and 46 minutes of continuous audio. It's marked with "N" markers for 36 tracks. I can't get the whole thing on one CD, it's too long. When I split in half and save as two different veggie files, they won't burn to the CD. I think it has something to do with the single project being split and saved as two--but what the problem is I can't say.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Just a guess, but splitting the file may be confusing it. When you place the first "N" marker it sets the beginning and end of the disc. When you split you have the end marker in the second file and the beginning marker in the first file. You may not have a beginning marker in the second file or an end marker in the first. You may have to redo the track markers after splitting.

Then again, i could be wrong.

Jay
Render the individual Veggie files to new audio tracks and use the two new files as the source for your CDs.

You can either render to a new track and mute the originals, thereby keeping your markers in place or import the render file onto a new track and mute the original.

Can't uderstand why it won't burn the CD off your new split veggies other than it must be referencing the whole 1 hour 46 min original file when it tries to burn and considers it too large, based on the 80 minute max for audio CDs.

The max for audio CDs is 74:04, you can make 80 minutes ones, they generally play OK but that's outside the Redbook standard.

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I still use CDA for CD mastering. Probably no real advantage to it over Vegas apart from CD text and printed cue sheets etc. But it came free with SF7.

Kelly and Stephen, thank you both for your help. I think I've just about got this licked. Will start again tomorrow.

Bob, yes, you're right. This is just a reference CD for my own purposes. I wanted to index the subjects discussed during the interview, rather than having to scrub back and forth trying to find what I need.

For simple projects like that CDA is just great.
And it can do one thing Vegas can't, add audio FXs at the event level.
Bob.

Jay? - "I wanted to index the subjects discussed during the interview, rather than having to scrub back and forth trying to find what I need."

When I've got bits I want "grouped" I use BINS and Subclip creation. Set out logically: SubjectA; SubjectB; SubjectC; - this gives me a fast, logical and searchable way to "assemble" footage/audio. Having, say the "SubjectB" Bin open, when I scrub from either the Trimmer or T/L and Right Click Save as subclip, THAT clip ( with the option to Rename too! ) plops in THAT Bin. Others do Regions - I find this approach a bit more intuitive and a fast way for this lazy editor to get AT the story/narrative being told.

So, Preview a L O N G event once, and have the pieces Indexed via BINS. Done!

Not what you want?

Grazie

Jay,

Vegas does just as good a job as CDA in setting up and burning Redbook audio CD's. Set it up as a Disk at Once (DAO) project.

In the Options menu under Preferences you can specify the number of seconds between tracks. 2 seconds is standard Redbook audio compliance for the most part.
In the Options menu turn OFF Quantize to Frames. It will give you greater precision.

If you have a set of audio files you can add the files as tracks to the layout.
In the Media Pool change the view to Details with the Views button. You can then enter the track number in the coments column. You can click the header to sort them then add this to the media pool.
Right click and choose Add as CD Track. The files are added and marked as CD tracks automatically. A two second pause is also added before the first track as well as in between the others.

If you have an existing project you can either mark them manually or automatically.
If you are laying out the project manually you have to add the pauses yourself. Whether automatic or manually done follow this step by going to the Tools menu and choosing Lay Out Audio CD from Events. If you used regular markers these should automatically change to CD markers. If you named them it should name them the same. To navigate them use the Period key to jump from track to track after double clicking the first track marker. Comma will go backwards. You probably should put a quick fade at the beginning and end of each track for your project.

Use the Tools menu to burn the CD and choose Disk At Once Audio CD. Choose the drive, speed , etc (using the buffer underrun protection check box can cause problems with some players) I don't use it. Use Test first. Then go back and burn it. Render it to a temporary image. That will help prevent buffer underruns. You can also use it later to burn more copies.

John

Grazie, if I were editing I think what you're saying is right on the mark, if I understood you correctly, and I may not have.

I had mistakenly thought I could simply add track markers and be done with it. I had to physically break out and label each topic as an individual track. Once that was done, I had to reconstruct the CD.

However, the challenge now is to put everything back in the original sequence. For some reason, it didn't keep the track in the proper sequence.

had mistakenly thought I could simply add track markers and be done with it. I had to physically break out and label each topic as an individual track. Once that was done, I had to reconstruct the CD.

However, the challenge now is to put everything back in the original sequence. For some reason, it didn't keep the track in the proper sequence.
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See my post Jay.

John

John, I missed your post as I was posting at the same time.

Okay. I'm a dunce. I cannot find in the Preferences where to change the time between tracks. I've seen it. I've used it before. I know it's there! I just can't find it today.

[edit]

I found it!

<sigh> It still won't work.

I started with a clean project. I brought all the tracks into the Media Pool. I right clicked on each track and selected "Add as CD track". Then I did a test selected "Disc-at-once-audio", but I keep getting the following:

"'SFMMCX'-(17)
'atapi'-(1)
-'PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D 1.05'-(0)
Module sfmmcx.cpp Line 1685
An illegal request was received.
Unknown Additional Sense 21 02

Status: 00020202
Command: 2a 00 00 00 44 e2 00 00 1a 00
Sense: 05 21 02
Info: 00 03 57 07
Specific: 00 00 00
Extra: 63 21 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00"

What am I overlooking???

Jay,
Assuming you chose the correct target drive to burn to, do you have a Sata drive or Raid config or a Promise Controller on an Asus P4C800? If you have a Sata drive unplug the cable to the drive and try it again.

If you have Nero and EZCD Creator both on the system there may be a compatibility problem. Depends upon the versions as well.
That error message or something similar has shown up for years for various reasons particularly with various versions of DVDA. Sometimes it is a firmware issue and a reversion back to a previous one resolves it. Also there have been problems with DLA software if it is installed on your system. Remove it if is. Intervideo's WinDVD 4 (OEM) version has caused problems in the past. Remove it temporarily.

Try lowering the burn speed and also try a CDRW disc if you have one. You can always make copies of it if it works.

Alternately try:
1) do not render temp image
(2) just burn directly
(3) leave the check the disc capabilities on

Wish I could be more helpful Jay. That error message is all too common with Sony/SF software and 3rd party software and/or various hardware under varying conditions and parameters.

If none of the above works search the term SFMMCX in ALL FORUMS and choose 100 responses per page then start wading through it unless one of the other forum members has the magic answer I am overlooking.

John

Assuming you chose the correct target drive to burn to, do you have a Sata drive or Raid config or a Promise Controller on an Asus P4C800? If you have a Sata drive unplug the cable to the drive and try it again.

None of the above applies--I have none of that.

If you have Nero and EZCD Creator both on the system there may be a compatibility problem.

Nope none of those, either.

That error message or something similar has shown up for years for various reasons particularly with various versions of DVDA.

I just burned a CD a couple of weeks ago without any trouble.

Sometimes it is a firmware issue and a reversion back to a previous one resolves it.

I tried that, but it hasn't had any affect.

Also there have been problems with DLA software if it is installed on your system. Remove it if is. Intervideo's WinDVD 4 (OEM) version has caused problems in the past. Remove it temporarily.

Don't have any of that.

Try lowering the burn speed and also try a CDRW disc if you have one. You can always make copies of it if it works.

I'll give that try!

Alternately try:

Will try that as well.

Wish I could be more helpful Jay. That error message is all too common with Sony/SF software and 3rd party software and/or various hardware under varying conditions and parameters.

You and the others have been a great help and support. It's much appreciated!

John, this is driving me crazy. I tried using the CDRW like you suggested. It appeared to work. But the CD player did not recognize it.

When I looked at the files on the computer, it showed them as CDAs but the size was only 1K each!

tried using the CDRW like you suggested. It appeared to work. But the CD player did not recognize it.

When I looked at the files on the computer, it showed them as CDAs but the size was only 1K each!
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1K cda files are correct for a standard audio cd. If you put in a cd that was bought from a store, it will be exactly the same.
They merely point to the data on the Audio CD, telling your
CD player where the song starts.


If your player won't play CDRW's try the slower burn speed on a regular cd or try a car cd player and see if it will play the CDRW (kind of unlikely).
DVD players play CD's as well so try it in a DVD player. If it plays try some of the other suggestions I gave you and then try burning a CDR.

John

1. Some players don't play CD-RW. Can you play it back in Windows Media Player on your PC? It should play it, and it should show it as a CD, NOT a data disc. As John says, the 1k placeholders are what you will see on a true audio disc if you open it in Windows Explorer. That actually makes me believe that you burned the CD-RW successfully.

2. If you ever need to do this again, I created a script for you. I thought I would only have to modify two lines of code. I was correct on this, but I needed help from Ed (jetdv) to know which two lines to modify. Probably too late for this project, but here it is:

/**

 * This script will add CD markers between all events on the selected track

 *

 * Originally written By: Edward Troxel

 * Modified for CD markers by John Meyer

 *

 * 06/02/2006

 **/



import System;

import System.IO;

import System.Windows.Forms;

import Sony.Vegas;





try {

  var zeroMark : Timecode = new Timecode(0);



  //Find the selected event

  var track = FindSelectedTrack();

  if (null == track)

      throw "no selected track";



  var eventEnum = new Enumerator(track.Events);

  while (!eventEnum.atEnd()) {

    var evnt : TrackEvent = TrackEvent(eventEnum.item());



    if (evnt.Start >= zeroMark) {

      //Put a marker at the start point



      var myMarker = new CDRegion(evnt.Start, evnt.Length);

      Vegas.Project.CDTracks.Add(myMarker);

    }



    eventEnum.moveNext();

  }







} catch (e) {

    MessageBox.Show(e);

}





function FindSelectedTrack() : Track {

  var trackEnum = new Enumerator(Vegas.Project.Tracks);

  while (!trackEnum.atEnd()) {

    var track : Track = Track(trackEnum.item());

    if (track.Selected) {

        return track;

    }

    trackEnum.moveNext();

  }

  return null;

}

John, I tried both CD-RW and CD-R, and had the same results with both. Actually, Windows Media Player was where I first tested the discs, as that was where I had intended to use it. WMP kept giving me an error message that it could not recognize the format.

Just for kicks, I went back and built a test using the same tracks. This time I reset the default (2 seconds between tracks) and laid down five tracks. Burned the CD and it worked! Evidently, Vegas doesn't like it when you divide a track into individual tracks and try to join them back as one with the ability to play them seperately.

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to do the script. That was very kind of you. However, I have to admit I know nothing about such scripting. The truth is I don't even know how to apply what you've so graciously provided.

<puts on dunce cap>