Now the problem is...that I don't have chapters...

I haven't tried this myself, but how about putting an "empty" subtitle (maybe a couple of <space>) after the last subtitle with any real text to kind of clear the screen?

BTW, I am starting to think that this is a bug in DVDA 3, as it seems to work fine in DVDA 2.

Thanks Ro...yes, this is definately a bug...

I'm going to try what you are saying. I have spent countless hours trying everything...what a waste of time, really.

Anyway, at this point I've imported another video with embeded subtitles...

The funny thing is......that adding another video track makes dvda3 recompress the first video track which is only 1.4Gb....there is no need to recompress it...there is still plenty of room for another video track.....just when I thought I had a workoround, another bug comes in...

thanks for your suggestion, though, I'll try it in a minute

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One other thing.........since I have two video track both under 1.5Gb...it does not need to recompress, right?

Ok....it seems I don't have an option there, and I go to Optimize DVD and the frame rate is stated shows as 29.97....

I rendered my MPG from Vegas as 23.976 inserting the 2>3 pulldown. DVDA compliant...but is DVDA3 detecting a 29.7 footage?

How do I make sure that DVDA3 is set to burn a 24 progressive file?

Also, I would much appreciate on the issue of recompressing a vide file (1.5gb) because I'm adding a new video track.....I'm desperate, really

I can't believe that I have spent 3 full days....no kidding.....trying to make a single dvd with regular subtitles and regular chapters...

And I'm going to be able to deliver this DVD thanks to:

virtualdub
subtitle workshop

and some filters and other freewares.....

Every step in my proyect a new bug or limitation of the program makes me use some third party sofware.

so....why would I need DVDA3? it sucks

Did you try to add the second video as a separate angle track? If so, DVDA needs to recompress, because both videos need to be made into one stream (it also says so in the DVDA manual).

If I don't need DL support, I can always go back to DVDA 2 which has been working just fine for me.

DVDA's need to recompress a file rarely has anything to do with the size of the file. It has to do with whether or not the files are DVD compliant. If it's the wrong framesize, if DVDA needs to alter the video in some way, if it's not MPEG2, if [FITB], then the file needs to be re-encoded. And when it's re-encoded, it will be recompressed.

Rob

Ok....it seems I don't have an option there, and I go to Optimize DVD and the frame rate is stated shows as 29.97....

The Optimize DVD window doesn't "detect" your media's frame rate -- that's where you tell it what you want the final frame rate to be. Click where it says 29.970 and change it to 24p.

Rob

Thanks, Ro. I did not know about the inserting a new video track as a different angle.

It makes sense.

What it does not make sense is why there is that option to insert as many video tracks as you want, if you can't use them.

bStro, both files have been properly encoded in Vegas, using templates Ntscd DVD A 24p template.

Also, it is kind of weird that I would have to tell dvda what frame rate it is my project, specially since that option is in the optimize dvd and not in the general project properties.

The number of video tracks that can be inserted as different camera angles is limited by DVD specifications.

If all you want is to have different movies and/or videos, slide shows, etc. on one disk, that is possible without recompression, as long as the media is already DVD compliant. See the manual under "adding media" or something like that.

You are refering to add a new video event at the end of another one?

or the option to have a folder with extras?

because extras can only be 1gb and can only be accessed when playing the dvd on a computer.

Dude. The manual. Seriously.

You're making this seem way more complicated than it is.

Rob

No and no.

What I mean is that you could have a DVD with a menu giving the viewer a choice of watching video A, B, C, ... or a slideshow (made with Vegas), all without having the media re-encoded/recompressed so long as the media is compliant in the first place. I have done just that on several projects and it has been my usual workflow ever since DVDA 1.

However, in DVDA 3, if you add more than one video track to any one timeline, you are creating different viewing/camera angles for the same video timeline (to be toggled during playback using the angle-button on the player's remote) and then the media has to be compressed, even if the individual files are already DVD compliant (because, bascially, DVDA has to take these individual files and make them into one).

I have never tried to put any PC or DVD-ROM type stuff in a separate folder onto the DVD since all my DVDs are meant to be played on standalone players and they don't support things like that.

Really, bStro?

Ro, that means that DVDA1 and DVDA2 can do it, but DVDA3 can't?

Ok bStro, I found it

adding media from the project overview, and not in the timeline

it does not, however, do want I want.....the scene selection points to chapters in one of the video streams, I can't have it to point to two different chapters from two different video streams..
that's a big problem

Ro, that means that DVDA1 and DVDA2 can do it, but DVDA3 can't?

No, it means this wasn't relevant in DVDA1 or DVDA2 because multiple angles were not even possible in those versions.

Is all this still an effort to get around your subtitle problem? Because I strongly suspect this workaround is totally unnecessary. Do you have or could you re-create your project with the subtitle that lasted too long? If so, send it to bstro at 50mail dot com, and I'll take a look at it.

Rob

Rob,

I have the same problem with a project I did originally using DVDA 2 (and which was working fine). Then I rerendered the video (2 hours) at a higher bit rate to put it on a DL DVD with DVDA 3. Everything went smoothly, except for the last subtitle to be used remaining on screen for the rest of the video.

It is neccesary because of that subtitle that never goes away. It would be unnecesary if DVDA would not give me that problem.


On the other hand, yes, I have try to recreate it, I have analized time codes of the subtitle file, I have imported, exported, imported

I'm sending you the DAR and subtitles

Ro, did you check if it was related to inclusion of chapters in the timeline?

Yes, I have chapters in that project. But, as I said before, everything used to work fine in DVDA 2. If haven't had a chance to test the workaround I suggested before (with an "empty" subtitle). Did you try that?

I must admit, I am kind of curious as to what Rob finds, once he gets your DAR file.

Actually Ro.....I should have done it before......because it does work!!!!!
I forgot about that.....I'm so estressed.....anyway, that is the best solution, so far...thanks

Nonetheless, I have sent the dar file and subtitles to bStro