Subtitle never goes away

aspenv wrote on 5/2/2005, 4:31 AM

I have an event subtitle that when it starts, it never goes away...it last for the whole project (25 minutes)....
I have tried everything, like exporting all the subitles and reimporting them again...but nothing, once it gets to that second, the image and sound is good, but the subtitle lingers on...for the whole time...
is this a bug, or I'm a doing something wrong?

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aspenv wrote on 5/5/2005, 1:51 PM

bStro, in the preview works fine for me too.

The problem is on a burned dvd or in an iso image.

aspenv wrote on 5/5/2005, 6:01 PM

At the end, it affected all the subtitles before each chapter.

So....I included an empty subtitle event before each chapter.

But, unfortunately, it does not work....

the empty subtitle event is the one now that does not go away...so the result is that I can't see anymore subtitles....

the other thing, is...that sometimes it works, like 1% of the times....

ro_max wrote on 5/5/2005, 9:31 PM

Too bad, but I guess it was worth a try. Looks like we will have to wait for a bug fix. BTW, did you also report this issue to Sony through the "proper channels"?

aspenv wrote on 5/5/2005, 11:05 PM

Yeah, it was a great idea, too bad it did not work out all the way. Btw, thanks for all your support.

And no, I have not contacted Sony about this. I was waiting to see if someone had the same issue...actually, I was surprised that there was no mention about this, until you said you had the same problem.

I guess that there are not many people doing subtitles.

So, yes, defnititely it looks like a bug that needs to be reported.

Thanks again!

Victor wrote on 5/10/2005, 10:45 AM

Subtitle never goes away. I have the same problem, if the main movie has chapters. When burned dvd playback one chapter, last subtitle freeze to the end of whole movie. Picture compilation with subtittles has not such problem.

Victor wrote on 5/25/2005, 11:01 PM

Who else have the same problem? I asked because hope that it will be solved in the new DVDA update. Otherwise I have to use another DVD authorizing soft to finish my project.

ro_max wrote on 5/26/2005, 4:09 AM

Including yourself, there are at least four people here who have reported this phenomenon. After the release of Vegas 6.0b a few days ago, I hope that DVD 3.0a is around the corner.

aspenv wrote on 5/26/2005, 2:45 PM

The only solution I came out is to include two mpg2 in the final DVD, one with embedded subtitles the other one without subtitles.

Btw, for the subtitles I have used the Pluginpac by Satish so I could use the Subtitler filter (a virtual dub filter) inside Vegas. It works great and the subtitles look beeter than the ones created in DVDA3.

Also, it would be great that DVDA3 could import all the common subtitles types (srt, ssa, etc).

johnmeyer wrote on 5/26/2005, 8:53 PM

I've got this problem as well.

johnmeyer wrote on 5/29/2005, 5:52 PM

I'm not sure I ran into the identical bug, but if I did, I found a workaround.

What happened to me was that, when I go to a new chapter, if there is no subtitle at the beginning of that chapter, the last subtitle pops up and stays there forever until the DVD encounters a real subtitle. (If there are no subtitles in that chapter, the subtitle stays up for the duration of that chapter). Once a real subtitle is encounted, that subtitle displays for the appropriate amount of time, and the rest of the subtitles within that chapter behave normally.

The simple fix is to include a "dummy" subtitle at the beginning of each chapter. Just create a subtitle, but erase the text (actually, I put a single period, left justified, set it to 8 point font, and moved it into the unsafe area, because I wasn't certain whether a blank subtitle would create other problems).

This completely gets around the bug. Sony still needs to fix the problem, but this lets you use subtitles, and the workaround isn't very difficult to implement.

Victor wrote on 6/1/2005, 10:28 AM

john meyer wrote: "The simple fix is to include a "dummy" subtitle at the beginning of each chapter".

Thanks, really working.

ECB wrote on 6/1/2005, 3:02 PM

I also have duplicated the bug. Has someone(s) 'officially' reported the bug to Sony tech support?

Ed

johnmeyer wrote on 6/1/2005, 5:35 PM

Has someone(s) 'officially' reported the bug to Sony tech support?

Yes, I did. They have duplicated it. That usually means that it will be fixed in a future release.

matrixtech wrote on 6/1/2005, 7:52 PM

I haven't upgraded to DVDA 3 yet, but I had this problem with DVDA2. Any subtitle that was supposed to end on the same frame as a chapter point remained until the next subtitle or if no other subtitles, until the end of the video. My solution was to adjust the endpoint of the subtitle to a frame or two before the chapter point. It was very annoying and I had hoped it was fixed in 3.0. And no, I didn't report it (shame on me!).

AlistairLock wrote on 6/14/2005, 4:11 AM

Can I suggest another version of the same workaround?

Place the dummy "empty" text event just *before* the new chapter point. That way the empty event will be repeated after the new chapter point, and won't therefore be seen.

I've been doing that on a DVD I'm working on at the moment and that seems to "fix" the problem.

ECB wrote on 6/14/2005, 6:18 AM

The problem is solved in the latest release DVDA3 3.0a (build 117)

Ed

bStro wrote on 6/14/2005, 7:42 AM

The problem is solved in the latest release DVDA3 3.0a (build 117)

Really? I didn't notice it mentioned in the release notes. You found this out on your own, or are you looking at the part about subtitle track selection?

If it's been fixed, you should let Sony know so they can add it to the release notes.

Rob

ECB wrote on 6/14/2005, 8:05 AM

It has been my experiece that Sony does not always list all the bug fixes in the release notes. When I find a bug and me or someone else reports it I always test the next release to see if it was fixed. I tested and sure enough it was fixed.

Ed B

ro_max wrote on 6/14/2005, 8:10 AM

I am going to test this. If it has truly been fixed, I am going to start to use DVDA 3.0a. So far, I have stuck to DVDA 2.0 because of the subtitle bug.

ECB wrote on 6/14/2005, 8:22 AM

Let me give you some advice from an old beta tester. You always run a regression test after each new build. :)

Let us know if you find it fixed.

Ed

ro_max wrote on 6/14/2005, 10:21 AM

Yes, it has been fixed. I redid an 8 GB, 2-hour video project on a DL DVD and it works fine. Thank you, Sony, for fixing the bug, and thank you, ECB, for bring the fix to my attention. I might have kept waiting for 3.0b...