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BrianStanding wrote on 5/23/2007, 7:22 AM
"--Being able to add notes while capturing (while I capture, I will sometimes put notes onto paper)"

GlennChan,

I always use markers for note taking. If you use the Edit Details window, it's pretty easy to read and edit.
ken c wrote on 5/23/2007, 10:42 AM
Agree re a better TITLER is top of the list.

I'm basically giving up on vegas re hoping they'll do a solid job with a titler, and will likely learn how to use adobe after effects, as it looks like it has all the full features I need anyways for broadcast titler effects.

Hmm what else.. dockable window elements, so we can pull apart pieces of the work area and put them where we want, not forced to be in a single rectangular workspace... the way Dreamweaver and Fireworks lets you undock all the properties and other control areas.

And better/smoother handline of pan crop stills, eg if I have 3 elements scrolling from left to right, they're Always choppy... minor pauses, not razor-smooth animation scroll.


ken
GlennChan wrote on 5/23/2007, 11:00 AM
I always use markers for note taking. If you use the Edit Details window, it's pretty easy to read and edit.
1- You can't add any markers during capture. Nor can you search them as far as I know.

2- The Edit Details window doesn't seem to be able to show markers in clips.

It's somewhat workable if you have a second .veg with all your notes in it in the timeline... but kinda kludgey and no keyword search. No?
BrianStanding wrote on 5/23/2007, 12:52 PM
Hmmmm.... yeah I see what you're talking about. I'm not at my edit machine, so I'm responding by memory right now.

There is the "Capture Comments" field which is accessible (at least for DV capture) in VidCap and in either the Media Manager or Project Media window (I forget which). I believe you can do a basic search on this field.

As for notes in the clips, there's always the trimmer. There's a setting in either "View" or "Preferences" that lets you see these on the timeline.

I was thinking of notes to myself about what I need to do at particular points of the timeline as I'm editing.

I agree, it would be nice to have one repository for all of this, that was searchable from anywhere. See also some of the ideas in this thread:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=505851
Cheesehole wrote on 5/23/2007, 2:09 PM
Funny I was about to post a suggestion for the EDIT DETAILS window to be SEARCHABLE. That would solve a lot of problems. Search on Marker names, Region names, Take names, whatever...

Also, we should be able to jump to the relevant region, marker, or event from the Edit Details window. Currently I have to copy / paste the time from Edit Details to the CPI time field on the timeline to get to the events I'm seeing in the Edit Details window.

Just submitted to the Product Suggestions area under Support...
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/support/productsuggestion.asp
DJPadre wrote on 5/23/2007, 8:24 PM
TRUE hyperthreaded ac3 rendering...

Midi CC controllable parameters for filters and envelopes which RECORD Midi CC on the fly (like the surround panner)...
(TO demonstrate, consider a Korg Kaos pad, now with this pad, imagine having slider and pad control ALL AT ONCE and recording those movements as the video plays back.. Pad control on left, knob control on right... full on live tweaking... THATS what i want..

Give us a project wide 3d track motion, with child tracks lockable to the parent, in turn, we can creat as many tracks as we want and have them floating in 3d space. By locking them, we lock the perspective in which they display, in turn, we can manipulat ethe 3d camera and ALL child tracks behave as though theyre in that 3d floating space, BUT we dont have to keyframe each one (unless we want to of course)

Bezier masking on the clip level, not track level...

Auto white balance correction filter

Colour match filter

Colour Pass filter

Scratch colour options for Old Film Effect filter (as opposed to only being white)

Importation of gradients for cookie cutter filter

New glow filter parameters such as shape, flare, glare, blur, burn, colour gradation (ie inside white, medium yellow, outside red)
New Glow filter composite paramters such as add, burn, differential (and similar parameters as found in radial blur filter)

Image stabiliser plugin - Vdub deshaker kicks ass, but id liek to see this within begas.. it would save having to render out, then reimport

Cinescore audio bus track.

Background rendering based on the project and media settings. Ie, if using m2t, have BG rendering prerender to that format, if using DV, prerendering to DV.
This would alleviate preview issues, as well as rendering issues.
If main concept's "main actor" nle can do it (without a Liquid-esque databasing system) i dont see why vegas cant
This would also alleviate ram previews

GPU would be nice, but i doubt it

A particle engine would be nice, like trapcode particular or PI3, but i doubt that would ever happen.

I dont have an issue with the titler, but i do have issues with "transparent" video not being transparent.. try a page peel on a cookie cut photo, and instead of having the "visible" elements peel, the entire FRAME peels.. even the invisible black

Drop shadow on the clip level (not track level)

Deinterlacing options for scaling up or down, in addition to motion estimation and accuracy

Sd to HD scaler (ever seen Magic Bullet instant HD? ) go have a look.. totally worth the cash especially if using Combo HD SD cameras

Recordable keyframes for all filters (like surround panner, have a similar auto "keyframe writer" for video

Dolby True HD (bit for bit) and Dolby Digital Plus options for HD DVD and BD delivery of AC3 material.
Dolby Lossless would also be nice to have as an option for Stereo outputs.
Im happy to pay extra for this.. hell i paid 2 grand for Surcode DTS encoder..

Have a hardware breakout decoder/encoder box, like avid Mojo.
Make it an option, not a necessity and people will buy. Run it through 1394b or PCIe bus

Native support for Pana MXF within the XDCam explorer

Flash video output options for web based secure and copy protected material.

BlueRay and HD DVD authoring for DVD Architect

And this ones for Sony, MAKE HDV 1440x1080 25p/50i a standard format for BD.
At ths time, the only 1080 res supported by blueray is 1920x1080 in 60i or 24p. In turn, ALL hdv material needs to be scaled UP to 1920 from its original 1440
This is one additional processing step we really dont need, as it has been proven that BD WILL play 1440 without an issue.. it jsut doesnt comply with the BD standards..
In turn, i believe that THIS one factor is what is causing DVDA to take so long to support the BD format






jvincent wrote on 5/23/2007, 11:16 PM
SMART RENDERING..... i spend hours to convert MPEG2 to ....MPEG2.
GlennChan wrote on 5/23/2007, 11:25 PM
DJPadre:

Bezier masking on the clip level, not track level...
It is clip level. In the eventFX window, try clicking the little triangles in the bottom left corner. This adjusts pre/post... you can have your filters get applied before masking.

Auto white balance correction filter
It's in the color corrector. Also in Mike Crash's auto levels if you need auto (download this for free).

Color match is sort of in the secondary CC. I just eyeball stuff.

Color pass is in the secondary CC. Ask if you need a tutorial link.

Importation of gradients for cookie cutter filter
You can do this via compositing layers in Vegas. Read the help for multiple composite mode.

Glow: I think 3rd party plugs like the Velvetmatter does this. Though having a glint in Vegas would be nice (the Glint that everyone uses for AE; overdone but popular).

Image stabiliser: It seems like it might be useful if Vegas could be integrated tighter with Virtualdub. Or for quick fixes, a 1-point motion tracker + stabilizer in Vegas might fix the easy shots.

2- Interesting idea with the background render, though I'd prefer that not happen. I like how Vegas lets you be flexible with the timeline. Improvement to the way Vegas handles renders would be better... i.e. the way FCP does it is decent. It doesn't kill pre-renders if you ripple (or do other simple things). And then if you could get background rendering at the same time, that would be sweet.

Though I do see what you're saying about converting the formats. What if you could mark clips for transcoding and let that run in the background and come back in as takes? (Though that scheme might get a little complicated.) Though I think background rendering (a general bg render) would save more time than background transcoding.
NickHope wrote on 5/23/2007, 11:56 PM
Nothing original here:

- smart rendering
- hardware acceleration
- titler
- FLV export

and my old bugbear:

- display of event length when dragging it's ends in the timeline
Grazie wrote on 5/24/2007, 1:16 AM
- display of event length when dragging it's ends in the timeline

Eh? Don't I already have this in V7e? When I drag an Event's End I get a readout of the length; how much I'm away from its beginning; if I go over the "Notch" repeat then I get multiples of the Event length; if I drag backwards I get a negative number. Is this what you mean?

Grazie
farss wrote on 5/24/2007, 5:48 AM
Here's one that nobody's mentioned and it is a bit out there.
Zoomable panes. Would be something totally unique and no doubt one heck of a lot of coding but this isn't just eye candy, it seems to becoming quite an issue, well at least it's getting some mention in the audio world.
The issue is FX now have more widgets (and take up more screen), we run projects with more tracks (and that uses up more screen), we use more audio busses (and that takes up more screen). Sure you can resize them but what can you see once they get below around 80%, not much, vital bits get hidden, level meters vanish, controls become inaccessible etc. Just take a look at some of the iZotopes FXs, those things demand a heck of lot of real estate.

Anyway, just a thought. Probably WinXP would have to go, I have seen this done on a Unix system over a decade ago, you resize a text window and the text etc simply scaled so it all still fitted in the window. It can be done.

Bob.
NickHope wrote on 5/24/2007, 6:38 AM
- display of event length when dragging it's ends in the timeline

I'm not getting that behaviour here. All I get is a readout of how far I've moved the cursor from the position I started the drag from. Hence I always keep a little torn-off window open above the timeline showing Edit Details > Selected Events > Length. I like instant feedback of how long each event is when I'm editing.

This could be easily implemented right on the event itself in a similar way to the way transition lengths now show right on the transition.

I remember Premiere Pro has a great big live readout of the clip length during "end drag" editing.

Where is the figure displayed Grazie? If you're really getting this, any chance of a screen grab?
grig wrote on 5/25/2007, 8:31 AM
ok, quickly, here some functions that could help me:

some video tracking function: giving you the ability to attach an object (image, video clip, text, ...) to a point or an area in the vid!

better audio time stretch (with audio "velocity "enveloppe)

better titler of course

Tell me if I'm wrong but, there's no way to use assignable audio fx on bus trax!
could be usefull!

....



revupvideo wrote on 5/25/2007, 9:50 AM
GPU speed increase.

64 bit I await with baited breath but for heavens sake get the text and titling up to scratch. A schoolboy could do better and it lets the whole program down. Please, please DO NOT rely on BORIS it is awful to work with and crashes too many times. How many more mag reviews slating the text side does there have to be for a bell rings somewhere?
DJPadre wrote on 5/25/2007, 10:00 AM
dude, if text is that bad, go grab blufftitler.. deadset u wotn look back and its dirt cheap, and gpu driven
Cliff Etzel wrote on 5/25/2007, 11:30 AM
What I want is a titler that is user friendly - not a bunch of glitz glam lame special effects. The Titler in Premiere Pro has got to be one of the best and easiest to use in an NLE. I want a solid no frills titler that is intuitive.

Hence another reason why Vegas goes unused on both my desktop and laptop machines.

I also feel the user interface needs a revamp similar to how the other major NLE's are laid out. And make it a 64bit version with these requests to boot.

Cliff Etzel
bluprojekt
Rosebud wrote on 5/25/2007, 11:40 AM
From Cheese_J_Hole > "Also, we should be able to jump to the relevant region, marker from the Edit Details window"

I made a script for this task (only for V7).
You can download it HERE.
jwcarney wrote on 5/25/2007, 2:43 PM
Hmmm....
32bit per channel color support with 10bit 4:4:4 output support.
Support for various lut files (IRADAS...). support for various monitor profile tools. Support for 10bit log DPX files. Support for OpenEXR files. (In and out).
Keep it stable. Oh well.




Cheesehole wrote on 5/26/2007, 12:28 AM
Rosebud,

Holy cow that's pretty nifty! Any plans to add "Events"? That and a search window would really kick ass. I'd pay good money for something like that. In any case, thanks for posting it. I like it a lot. Wish I knew how to code stuff like that... what did you write the dll in?

Ben

Oh... back on topic... how about collapsing track folders so we can organize complex compositions and make room for more tracks on the screen. Like Adobe Flash. Dunno if PP does it. Track folders would rock.
Rosebud wrote on 5/26/2007, 2:12 AM
Ben,
I will have a look to add “Events”. Btw, you can find my other free scripts here.

Gilles
mdopp wrote on 5/26/2007, 2:32 AM
It would be nice to FINALLY get a decent deinterlacer (the two options "blend" and "interpolate" are just inferior).
A VC1 codec would also be nice. Faster coding than the WMV plugin today and it should be capable to handle interlaced video.
DJPadre wrote on 5/26/2007, 4:38 AM
i dotn think we'll be seeing VC1 anytime soon considering the existing BluePrint presets.. I mean being MS, to be honest, im surprised vegas does WMV and QT
BrianStanding wrote on 5/26/2007, 10:08 AM
Rosebud,

Excellent work! I'm really glad you did this! Do you have any idea how long I've been looking for this feature?

THIS is why Vegas is the best NLE out there. I can't think of any other software that is as accessible to scripting. I'd much rather have freebies like Rosebud's, johnmeyer's and low-cost ones like Excalibur and Ultimate S, that are made and designed by Vegas users, than all the expensive 3rd-party Premiere plug-ins.
NickHope wrote on 5/26/2007, 10:28 AM
I know this is OT but where do I put the 4 files that make up the Goto Marker script?