System build advice for Vegas pro 14

werner-v wrote on 11/27/2018, 12:30 AM

Hi. I am upgrading my system for VP14 and would like to know if any of these combinations would be OK or to be avoided.

1) Low budget - Ryzen 5 2400G APU

2) Higher budget - Ryzen 5 2600 with either Radeon Rx 570 or Nvidia 1060 GPU.

Any other recommendations for this level of system would be appreciated as well.

Thanks.

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werner-v wrote on 12/7/2018, 10:18 PM

Thankyou for the time everyone has taken to respond. Much appreciated.

I ended up ordering a Ryzen 5 2600 and a Radeon 570 before most of these posts were written.

I guess I will just have to experiment with Different combinations of CPU only, or CPU and GPU rendering, along with tweaking the software settings, to find the sweet spot.

Would CPU only be a better bet for quality and stability?

As mentioned before I would typically either be rendering HD video to keep the highest quality copy I can from my camera, or, to wanting to do a high quality, fast render to mpeg 4 (h264?).

Any advice on best codec and hardware/ software settings for my Ryzen 2600 and Radeon 570 will be much appreciated.

NickHope wrote on 12/7/2018, 11:28 PM

Would CPU only be a better bet for quality and stability?

Very probably, but check the quality/speed/stability of CPU vs VCE rendering for yourself.

As mentioned before I would typically either be rendering HD video to keep the highest quality copy I can from my camera, or, to wanting to do a high quality, fast render to mpeg 4 (h264?).

Any advice on best codec and hardware/ software settings for my Ryzen 2600 and Radeon 570 will be much appreciated.

What are you planning to do with the rendered file? How are you planning to watch it?

NickHope wrote on 12/7/2018, 11:42 PM

Regarding QSV decoding, if someone with Intel HD Graphics wishes to measure the effect of that, there is an internal preference to "Enable Hardware decoding for So4 Compound Reader". I assume this is referring only to QSV:

I have no idea if QSV is utilized by other decoders such as the HEVC decoder.

Some input here from MAGIX about what actually happens would be very welcome.

werner-v wrote on 12/8/2018, 1:13 AM

Nick, these would be the the possible rendering scenarios for the HD footage from my camera:

1) Maximum quality for some kind of archiving solution. (weddings, music videos , movie shorts etc.)onto hard drive, ceramic DVD or tape, USB stick etc. )

2)Best quality mpeg 4 to upload to YouTube.

3) Good quality mpeg4 for storing on my PC (general footage - compromise between quality and file size).

As mentioned before my the files comingfrom my Lumix are either HD mpeg 4 or AVCHD.

As this is not for profesional purposes, I would lean towards quality over speed for rendering.

NickHope wrote on 12/8/2018, 2:40 AM

I think you can just about handle all of your scenarios 1, 2 & 3 with the same AVC/AAC render.

Take a look at this post: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-improve-the-quality-of-my-avc-h-264-renders--104642/ It's rather out of date but you can pretty much apply the MainConcept AVC/MVC advice (part 3) to the Magix AVC/AAC encoder that it replaced.

I do my YouTube renders with the method described in part 4c of that post (x264 codec via HappyOtterScripts RenderPlus plugin) and have great success with that.

In the case of either the Magix AVC/AAC encoder or the RenderPlus method, you will probably get a higher-quality-per-bit result with CPU-only encoding, at the cost of rendering speed, but do test VCE to confirm that. There are different versions of VCE and the encoding quality varies between them.

Also, check that sample renders will play back smoothly and without errors on your devices, whether that is TV, media players on computer etc..

werner-v wrote on 12/8/2018, 8:02 AM

Thank you so much for the advice Nick, I really do appreciate the time.