The Border Event FX is not correctly displaying on Vegas 20 or 21.

David-Thornbury wrote on 8/22/2023, 10:29 AM

Hello everyone, this is a software bug that is not new and has evaded being corrected for several of the latest software releases with if starting sometime after Vegas Version 18. I do know that it is an issue on Vegas 20 and now the new 21 but haven't tested version 19 so it may exist there as well. I am going to attach a link to a YouTube Video Showing this BUG so you can more easily understand the issue, but I will try to describe it here as well. I use Vegas to create Photomontages for different occasions and I drop .jpg photos onto a timeline and pictures often come in many shapes and sizes. I have the photos above a background track showing a background image or video. Here is where the problem is, when I add a BORDER event FX to the individual photos, in all versions up to Vegas 18, the solid or beveled border would adapt to the photos dimensions and adjust as needed with edits, crops and master timeline motion keyframes. When I upgraded to Vegas 20, the border effect no longer displays correctly and appears to be locked in a 16-9 aspect ratio and makes using this software no longer an option for my photomontage edits, because there is no work around to get this to display a border correctly! Please get this fixed, it's been an issue for years now and I am finally taking a day to document and post this issue in hopes that it actually will make a difference and get resolved. Here is that demo video.

Thank you,

Dave

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Grazie wrote on 8/24/2023, 6:59 AM

@Reyfox - Thanks for testing. Yup, it’s most definitely looking like the NVIDIA card/drivers are to blame.

MikeS wrote on 8/24/2023, 7:05 AM

I am using NVIDIA and I have exactly the same behaviour as @David-Thornbury. What is really intriguing (?) is that if you set the border effect to Blur rather than Solid (or Bevel), it behaves the way you'd want/expect ...

Reyfox wrote on 8/24/2023, 7:09 AM

@MikeS, I tried all 3 options for the border. Then I moved the corners of the PiP with border, and again, it worked as it should.

@Grazie maybe someone with an AMD graphics card can add to this thread whether it works or doesn't.

MikeS wrote on 8/24/2023, 8:49 AM

PiP? I think you may be the only one talking about PiP, unless I've misunderstood. Or are you suggesting PiP might be the solution? if so, PiP has it's own irritating quirks (not bugs though) with borders.

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/24/2023, 9:06 AM

Works fine for me, Nvidia1080TI, also I have not seen any of the Nvidia driver issues with my card.

Reyfox wrote on 8/24/2023, 9:13 AM

@MikeS, sorry... I was working on PiP with border, that is where my one brain was stuck. Yes, adding an image as demonstrated with Border placed after Pan/Crop does show that there is no border around a photo. And you can't pan/crop to a desired part of the image and have a border.

Using PiP (what issues are you experiencing?) works for me in doing what the user wants in VP20. Yeah, in VP18, it works, and the way it's implemented, it is more confusing and stressful to get something that consumer editors do easily, done in Vegas.

MikeS wrote on 8/24/2023, 9:49 AM

Works fine for me, Nvidia1080TI, also I have not seen any of the Nvidia driver issues with my card.

And can you confirm that "GPU acceleration of video processing" is set to that card, and not 'None'?

Elynde wrote on 8/26/2023, 6:43 PM

I can duplicate the border fx problem on my end, where cropping in pan/crop causes the border to disappear. Running a Nvidia 2080 with the current 537.13 game driver.

Former user wrote on 12/8/2023, 1:25 AM

Hi, just to update this post & bump it up so hopefully this gets fixed 👍

There's another option but you need Boris continuum, BCC DVE will create a mask after Pan/Crop has been adjusted with Stretch to fill frame Off (set to No), & it's fully adjustable

Reyfox wrote on 12/11/2023, 12:10 PM

@Former user, like you, I have Continuum 2024. Someone should not have to buy it to do this effect....

Former user wrote on 12/11/2023, 6:41 PM

@Reyfox No they shouldn't, I just had a look at the recent 208 build & it's the same.

Reyfox wrote on 12/12/2023, 4:58 AM

@Former user, I think now, it's a matter of priorities with these updates. What is more important overall, and then work down the ladder. I have tools to do the PiP with border. You also, and maybe others to use the border feature if need be.

Hoping, once they get the major things they are working on, these little "quality of life" things will be addressed. Resources and funding...

istrasci wrote on 9/7/2024, 7:26 PM

I see this thread has been dormant for a while, but I thought I'd chime in anyway.

I recently upgraded from Movie Studio Platinum 17 where it worked fine. But I confirm this behaviour is still in VP22. (Note that I'm currently using the 30-trial of VP22, so I don't know if certain features are disabled until a full purchase is made). If I disable GPU acceleration of my NVIDIA, borders all work as expected.

I can workaround this limitation by using Track Motion for both Position and 2D Glow with a blur of 0. With this setup, Pan/Crop works correctly for pan/zoom/aspect ratio changes. However, this DOES NOT work if using the PiP FX for positioning in place of Track Motion's Position.

It's...a workaround, but this will not allow you to 1) use both a 2D Glow with a border (if one wanted to do such a thing), or 2) use Blurred or Beveled borders.

Any word if progress is being made on this? I'm really gonna have to decide whether I can live without borders or without GPU acceleration; or even if I should just stick with MS Platinum 17 and not even pay for VP22 once my trial ends...

Reyfox wrote on 9/9/2024, 3:06 AM

Yes, it's still present in VP22.... hoping this will get some traction since I do use a lot of images in my videos.