Timeline LINE and DOT size and thickness

Ronald-Maxwell wrote on 12/19/2022, 5:29 PM

When using the INSERT VOLUME ENVOLOPES on timeline, I can barely see the line and dots for adjustment. How can make this line more thicker and the dots larger so I can see and work with them? ty

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Dexcon wrote on 12/19/2022, 6:13 PM

I don't think that the line and dot size can be altered - nothing to allow this shows in Internal Preferences. Maybe try altering the display size/scale in the computer's Windows display settings.

In vegas Pro, the color of the volume envelope can be changed to almost any color you could want in Options/Preferences/Display (tab) as per:

For example:

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Ronald-Maxwell wrote on 12/19/2022, 6:30 PM

Thank you for your response. This is a major disadvantage for me since it is a struggle to see the line, dots and arrow. I've been with Vegas a long time and have purchased every update along the way, but I will simply not be able to work the new Vegas 20 version unless they are able to make a change. Is this something you feel they will address, or would I just be spinning my wheels to submit a request? Sad that I will have to uninstall it and bite the bullet on the purchase and go back and use an earlier version.

Dexcon wrote on 12/19/2022, 6:48 PM

You might want to add this as a feature request to this thread: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-feature-requests--134374/?page=17

Also, in Options/Preferences/Display (tab), make sure that the "Use High DPI scaling (where available}" is not checked/activated. On my 4K screen with High DPI turned off, the volume envelope is marginally thicker and looks to be about the same size as in Vegas Pro 16.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2024.5, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Ronald-Maxwell wrote on 12/19/2022, 6:54 PM

ty, I will do this. :)

xberk wrote on 12/19/2022, 6:56 PM

@Ronald-Maxwell .. I don't own VP20 yet. Are you saying VP19 displays timeline envelopes and envelope points differently than VP20 ? .. Namely that they are smaller and therefore harder to work with?

Can you post a screen shot?

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Ronald-Maxwell wrote on 12/19/2022, 7:21 PM

Yes, the line appears to be a bit thicker and the envelope points are much larger in VP19. In the new VP20, they are much smaller to the point that I can barely see them and too difficult for me to work with, so I am back working in VP19.

xberk wrote on 12/19/2022, 8:30 PM

@Ronald-Maxwell Thanks for the screen shot .. looks like a nuisance and not an improvement. They need to fix this or someone needs to explain it ..

Is everyone out there seeing the same thing?

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Dexcon wrote on 12/19/2022, 9:17 PM

Is everyone out there seeing the same thing?

I'm not seeing any noticeable difference in the volume envelope's size, or the nodes, between VP19 and VP20.

Please note however that the above is on a 4K monitor and the High DPI options are turned off in both VP19 and 20. It may be a different result on an HD screen.

The answer: No noticeable difference between VP19 and 20 on my laptop with a 1920x1080 display (High DPI turned off on both VPs).

@Ronald-Maxwell  ... does the VP20 display that you've uploaded above have the High DPI settings turned off? - as per:

If not, try turning the High DPI option to off, close and restart VP20 and see if there's a difference. As pointed out above, I'm getting the same envelope and node sizes in both VP19 and 20.

Last changed by Dexcon on 12/19/2022, 9:26 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2024.5, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

bitman wrote on 12/20/2022, 4:02 AM

I am not seeing any difference between 19 and 20; I do have High DPI turned on. I am viewing on a ultrawide display 3840*1600, my windows scaling is 150%

 

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bitman wrote on 12/20/2022, 4:13 AM

@Ronald-Maxwell your V20 lines look more or less like my V19 and V20. I do not think it is a bug or regression on Vegas, probably more a windows .NET framework drawing consequence. Maybe the video driver is also playing a role. What is your OS version, .net version, videocard and driver?

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Ronald-Maxwell wrote on 12/20/2022, 6:47 AM

You might want to add this as a feature request to this thread: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-feature-requests--134374/?page=17

Also, in Options/Preferences/Display (tab), make sure that the "Use High DPI scaling (where available}" is not checked/activated. On my 4K screen with High DPI turned off, the volume envelope is marginally thicker and looks to be about the same size as in Vegas Pro 16.

Success! ty bitman!