As i said, my pc is not powerful for this in Vegas, i got 0.1 fps :)
For some reason NVDEC is not used in Vegas, while it's used in mpc-hc.
1660 Ti can decode a 8k 4:2:0 10 bit hevc stream.
https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new
For this type of recording, 8K is definitely not necessary. 4K is sufficient.
But it is amazing how much you can get out of this 10-bit 4:2:0 material with color grading.
The result itself is also amazing if you only export it in 8-bit 4:2:0.
The Nikon Z9 seems to be a very good overall package.
For this type of recording, 8K is definitely not necessary. 4K is sufficient.
But it is amazing how much you can get out of this 10-bit 4:2:0 material with color grading.
The result itself is also amazing if you only export it in 8-bit 4:2:0.
Couldn't agree more. Perhaps in a fully equipped studio, one could benefit from shooting HiRes HDR. Location work just doesn't justify the multiplication of efforts in Post.
For this type of recording, 8K is definitely not necessary. 4K is sufficient.
@Marc-Goder Many will record in 4K for delivery in 1080P for 2x lossless zoom in post, the 4K delivery version of that is to record in 8K. I think in part the rise of upscalers in video editors is to allow more flexibility but the problems and time and effort with upscalers are more of a negative than simply recording in 8K. If I can tell by looking at the video you used an upscaler then in my opinion you made a bad compromise. My phone has 'AI upscaling' but I turned it off because it looked upscaled. Ofcourse an Upscaler will have less of a problem with Nikon 330 Mb/s 4K HEVC than my phones 4K which I think is around 80Mb/s HEVC
I"m not sure what OP's problem is, has the same problem with VP22 and VP21b315, other than reset Vegas I don't have any other ideas.
Hey folks,
Firstly I want to say I appreciate people taking the time to reply.
I really do ...
BUT ... I also asked "why does this happen" ...
- I didnt ask for recommendations on ancient file formats
- I didnt ask for lighting advice, these test files are not indicative of my cinematogphy prowess
- I was after technical advice for you guys who know more about the editing software than me
My issue is that one file on a time plays. Two files on a timeline will not.
Doesnt matter which one is where (as shown in two EXAMPLE VIDEOS)...
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@RogerS rogerS : I came here to find out why one file plays while one identical file doesnt and switching the files around on the timeline causes the problem to remain but switch around, circling it all back it looks like a Vegas issue not a PC or OS issue. I will take your advice not on proxy files as if it plays them fine it plays them fine and thats an unnessesary tool chain point but on trying the older version of v21 and see if that works any magic :)
@Gid Gid : Thanks for checking it out, I will add details to the top as mentioned - cheers!
@Yelandkeil Yelandkeil : Its loaded from M2 1TB Samsung Evo SSD - and the cheap card from 2 gens ago was perfect and current when the Nikon Z9 launched and as shown twice by me and by others runs the files perfectly.
@UltraVista UltraVista : I listed the hardware above and yes its from SSD (NVME / M2).
@mark-y mark-y : I had that thought but the scratch drive is also an SSD.
@3POINT 3point: Thanks for your cinematography advice that I didnt ask for that is also unrelated to the technical question posed. AS THE VIDEOS ARE EXAMPLES OF THE ISSUE.
mark-y : Its not that one does and another doesnt its that one does and the same one doesnt therefor an issue with Vegas that I was asking for help with. PCs can handle it as shown by it handling it fine ... just not twice. Thats the issue.
mark-y : Modern cameras dont offer 100Mbps AVC CBR any longer.
mark-y : Thank for the cinematography advice I didnt ask for ... I have more lighting than is needed ... For the love of god dont think the SAMPLE TEST FILES I UPLOADED ARE INDICITIVE OF MY VIDEOGRAPHY SKILLS. "Shoot XAVC-S..." advice for 3 generations of camera ago unfortunately.
mark-y : It should be studio driver thats installed but there isnt much diff, the game one being slightly faster if anything.
@Howard-Vigorita Howard-Vigorita @ Im going to try this 208 build on 21 and see how that handles things thanks
UltraVista : I did split the spec out ... I'll have a play around with the preview / auto thingy too. Cheers!
@relaxvideo relaxvideo : Thanks for the moral support!
mark-y : Moden systems and mine isnt even classed as modern any longer being a 2020 build can handle ALL kinds of things (13,600 million Transistors, video bandwidth 448.0 GB/s, 18.12 TFLOPS etc) we're not dealing with Cinepak and RealMedia any longer.
@Marc-Goder Marc-Goder : Thanks I didnt ask and as noted these are EXAMPLE FILES - I didnt fancy uploading 50GB files for people to play with.
mark-y : Hi again
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Phew!
The why is most likely a limitation for how VEGAS used the GPU and VRAM in the latest builds. Consider testing a later build of 22 as the video engine is more fully developed.
I'm using 21.208 myself for the most part as it's predictable.
It appears that you may have already arrived at a certain set of conclusions before posting here, which are based on your reading and cumulative experiences up to this point.
I encourage you to embrace your good ideas, refining and adapting them as you gain experience, even if they are not all supported by the current physical state of the art in Vegas Pro. You are an intelligent video enthusiast, so your continued progress is certain, and I support you in that.
If I may, I will suggest a couple of video forum venues that may be well suited to your personality and focus, where you can continue your technical education without the annoyances that public discussions such as these often present: Videohelp definitely, and perhaps AVS come to mind, I don't know how active the CreativeCow is still.
For official technical help with your Vegas Pro software, the Support link at the top of the forum page is the place to start, and a staff engineer is probably better suited to help frame your observations in the larger context than your peers here are able to do.
Please do drop in to tell us how you resolved your problem; there is obviously plenty of interest here, judging from the number and variety of responses to your inquiry.
Continue shooting, continue editing, continue introspection, and best of success!
@djrikki2, as always, I am late to a party. But out of curiosity, I downloaded the two video clips and placed them on the timeline of VP21 B315.
Playback of the first clip was without any issues. When it reached the second clip, playback frame rate dropped for a moment between 24 and 25fps. Again, only for a moment. Not enough to notice while playing it back with Preview at Best>Full.
The second clip continued to play back at full frame rate with one further "stumble" again with frame rate dropping between 24 and 25fps.
My computer specs are listed in my Signature below. I suggest you do the same too. Here is a screenshot of playing back the second clip at full frame rate. GPU usage was usually around 100% for the most part while CPU usage was in single digits.
As to "why" your computer, which should not struggle with playing both clips back doesn't, I can't answer.
