Unable to import MOV files (again!)

Julius_ wrote on 12/12/2023, 8:07 AM

In V21 latest and greatest update, I cannot bring these mov files into my timeline.
Footage came from a nikon z6 camera and what I can't figure out is that another nikon z6 camera I was able to import into Vegas (?!?)

I have the Enable Quicktime plugin enabled

The Media Info from a file that I cannot import into Vegas:

General
Complete name                            : K:\Capture2023\ASPEN\Michael - PN2507 IWE\Laura_PrinceGeorge_Matriarch\Footage\Prince George\B-Roll\Z62_4891.MOV
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   2016.09 (qt  /niko)
File size                                : 613 MiB
Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 302 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2023-12-07 19:05:13
Tagged date                              : UTC 2023-12-07 19:05:13
NCDT                                     : NCTG

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L6.1
Format settings                          : 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : No
Format settings, RefFrames               : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP                     : N=1
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 299 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.602
Stream size                              : 607 MiB (99%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2023-12-07 19:05:13
Tagged date                              : UTC 2023-12-07 19:05:13
Color range                              : Full
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Format settings, Endianness              : Little
Format settings, Sign                    : Signed
Codec ID                                 : sowt
Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 3.12 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2023-12-07 19:05:13
Tagged date                              : UTC 2023-12-07 19:05:13

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Below is the Media info of a mov file that I COULD import into Vegas

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General
Complete name                            : K:\Capture2023\ASPEN\Michael - PN2507 IWE\Laura_PrinceGeorge_Matriarch\Footage\Prince George\A-Cam\Z62_4799.MOV
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   2016.09 (qt  /niko)
File size                                : 25.5 GiB
Duration                                 : 29 min 59 s
Overall bit rate                         : 122 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2023-12-07 17:55:01
Tagged date                              : UTC 2023-12-07 17:55:01
NCDT                                     : NCTG

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : No
Format settings, RefFrames               : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=12
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 29 min 59 s
Bit rate                                 : 120 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.605
Stream size                              : 25.2 GiB (99%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2023-12-07 17:55:01
Tagged date                              : UTC 2023-12-07 17:55:01
Color range                              : Full
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Format settings, Endianness              : Little
Format settings, Sign                    : Signed
Codec ID                                 : sowt
Duration                                 : 29 min 59 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 330 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2023-12-07 17:55:01
Tagged date                              : UTC 2023-12-07 17:55:01

Comments

john_dennis wrote on 12/12/2023, 1:03 PM

Share sample files of each.

Julius_ wrote on 12/12/2023, 1:55 PM

Works:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/v9o7xyko7md3krz2x7zve/Z62_4799.MOV?rlkey=0oszzyr9txz3lg757oy5at52k&dl=0

 

No Works:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xp65zuuyh9av6llgmii25/Z62_4891.MOV?rlkey=kjvia2i349ei1poadbgz2q0iy&dl=0

Former user wrote on 12/12/2023, 2:26 PM

@Julius_ Tried the second not working one.

No I can't get it to work, it shows the first frame but nothing after.

PS, the .mov does play in my other cheaper Magix Movie editor & Handbrake converted it ok to MP4.

j-v wrote on 12/12/2023, 2:54 PM

@Julius_
On my laptop from signature with all important settings default, there is no problem to add and play both files in Vegas pro 21 latest build, look

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Robert Johnston wrote on 12/12/2023, 3:11 PM

@Julius_ @Former user @john_dennis @j-v

I doubt that Legacy AVC Decoding will recognize a profile of High@L6.1. So, clear checkmark for Legacy AVC Decoding on the File I/O tab.

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john_dennis wrote on 12/12/2023, 3:19 PM

I can open the problem file.

Reyfox wrote on 12/12/2023, 3:21 PM

Playing here too. The only one I tried was the one "No Works". Screen shot while playing the timeline.

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mark-y wrote on 12/12/2023, 3:33 PM

The second file (330 Mbps) is almost certainly trying to build a proxy when you import it into Vegas. There is little notice of this save for the progress bar. Is this perhaps what is causing your stall?

Julius_ wrote on 12/12/2023, 3:51 PM

Thank you John...I uncheck the AVC legacy decoding and I am able to play the short file! I had turned that on because of some playback issues. Weird that one file can be opened and not the other.
Mark-y: No its not trying to build any proxy file.

 

Update: I am able to put the mov on the timeline with AVC decoding unchecked, but now my playback is so slow even in draft mode:(

Last changed by Julius_ on 12/12/2023, 6:57 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

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Realtek audio

 

Former user wrote on 12/12/2023, 11:50 PM

@Julius_ My AVC legacy decoding was unticked & couldn't play the file in my pic earlier & if I go to the Project Media tab - Create Proxy I get a red screen,. 🤷‍♂️

Former user wrote on 12/13/2023, 1:24 AM

@Former user Yeah another AVC ALL-I black frame hellscape. running default with Nvidia GPU decoder. The interesting thing is that it breaks Vegas. I screen recorded the problem started a new project imported recording and now that was flickering and then completely a black screen just as the original bad file played.

Restarted Vegas and my screen recording was now playing fine.