I think maybe you missed my point Steve. I will receive, and pay for, DVDA no matter what edition I opt for whether it be VMSP or VMSP SUITE.
The only difference is that the SUITE edition contains Sound Forge (v10), music titles etc and NewBlueFx 3D Titling and Video Effects which I've already got following a previous upgrade to what was then call the Production Suite.

What I'm really trying to ascertain is whether or not I shall be penalised by Sony when say v13 of VMS is released for only having purchased the basic VMSP 12 this time around.

Normally, to get additions such as Sound Forge one has to upgrade like I did i.e. VMSP > VMSP Production Suite. Now already having those it seems like a money loss for Sony if I am allowed to take a step backward i.e. to only the basic VMSP edition whilst still keeping hold of the additions CONTAINED WITHIN THE SUITE EDITION at a much lower price. Somewhere along the line there has to be a sting in the tail don't you think?

Somewhere along the line there has to be a sting in the tail don't you think?

Actually, I don't think so. When I first bought VMS (which I hardly ever use) all I owned was DVDA. I still got the normal upgrade price.

I'm planning on doing the same thIng. I have VMS Plat Suite v11 & have existing Audio tools, NB FX and transitions. I can't see any reason to upgrade to the V12 Platinum Suite. I'll probably settle for VMS Plat (no suite). Right now, the upgrades to VMS Plat Suite looks as if it could take place from any version -suite or no suite. Even if they change their upgrade policy and "penalize" you later, the cost difference would likely be similar to the cost difference between the Suite and non-suite PrOducts. No guarantees, but that is the way it looks now.

I'm just (hopefully) waiting for an email with discount offer to upgrade.

I think a lot of it hinges on whether the new suite version also includes new versions of the other software. If versions 12 & 13 still have the same old Sound Forge, NB FX, et. al. then it's hardly worth doing the suite upgrade.

Historically Sony has never penalized for skipping an upgrade step. Those who upgrade from version 8 to version 13 pay the same price as those who upgrade from 12 to 13.

The new suite has magic bullet looks + the newest version of sound forge 10 that has the Izotope vocal eraser, if you have an older version of Sound Forge you did not get that. it also has 50 soundtracks (i can't remember if that came with the old production suite or not) So you get a couple of things that the old suite did not have but if you do not use those than definety save some money and get plain 12.

Paul B

Hi guys,

be careful: the v12 intalls only on Vista+ - but not on XP (even the 32bit version.) I know that XP is an old dog but it works - and I sucked this with the upgrade, because after the purchase I realized that it will not install on my XP editor machine. If you are satisfied with v11 and you use XP for editing (as I do) you can not upgrade to v12 without opsystem upgrade.

eu_user

Yep.

Received this from Customer Service:

Hi R...,

Thank you for contacting Sony Creative Software. That is true, Movie Studio Platinum 12.0 and the Suite will no longer support Windows XP.

If you still have a follow-up question on this particular incident, please feel free to update it. If you have a completely different question, please create a new incident.

Well you didn't really need to contact Customer Service with that question as a quick look at the system specs required would have told you that XP was no longer supported.

Thank you for your astoundingly unhelpful post, BoyAtlantis.

I have found other cases in the past (e.g. lack of CUDA support for certain NVidia cards) where reality didn't conform to the marketing literature. Contacting Customer Service to confirm the answer to a question is quick and easy.

Sorry. English isn't my first language and obviously my earlier post came over as being somewhat abrupt which of course it wasn't meant to be. I was simply trying to point out that one should always check system specs first to avoid disappointment which over the time I've been on here has become obvious doesn't always happen. Apologies once again. :-)

I upgraded to Version 12 without hesitation. The price was right and the new features are things I long needed. I haven't played with it too much, as I am currently working on 100 short videos all requiring CHROMAKEYING - which is misbehaving for me in Version 12 (see my post on this issue please!). So, I'll be stuck with Version 11 a little longer than I would like.

I have to say, the price to upgrade to new or improved features ratio is very easy to digest for me. If you are using STUDIO as an amateur on a very regular basis - let's say, once a week - the cost seems easily justified, considering the Research & Development costs, overhead, support and general economic market and such SONY must incur.

If you're using STUDIO say LESS THAN once a week at most, as an amateur, the cost to upgrade is probably not worth it. The new features of Version 12 just happen to be things I absolutely wanted and needed. If those features add nothing to your workflow, Version 11 is/was a perfectly good version.

If I could solve my current CHROMAKEYING dilemma, and don't find any other glitches, I can say upgrading to version 12 is wholy worth it for a user of my type - which is amateur to semi-professional video editing multimedia types one to four days a week.

If you are using STUDIO as an amateur on a very regular basis - let's say, once a week - the cost seems easily justified

Eh?

I meant to write:

"If you're using STUDIO say LESS THAN once a week at most, as an amateur, the cost to upgrade is probably not worth it."

No problem, BoyAtlantis. I might have been abrupt too. But I'll always invest in a pre-sales email before I spend money.