upgrading video card RX590 or GTX1660

curt-danners wrote on 11/28/2019, 9:20 AM

hi All,

i will be heading out to upgrade mu video card tomorrow. 209.00 for an gigabyte RX590 and 279.00 for a gigabyte GTX1660.

my system consists of an msi gaming pro x470 mb, 48gb ram, Ryzen 7 2700x,2 x 500 gb ssd, 2 x 3 tb hhd's. i am running windows 10 and vegas pro 16. i do mostly band videos, not a lot of effects, lots of multicam editing, sometimes up to 14 camera angles. i have a crappy old hd6850 card at present, and i need to upgrade asap.

i have been researching the forums and im more confused now than ever on the choice between amd and nvidia.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

Comments

john_dennis wrote on 11/28/2019, 12:54 PM

You're likely to get "fan boy" responses, but, since I'm a hardware whore, I'm dispassionate about it.

If you don't have any plans of upgrading to Vegas Pro 17 in the next six months to a year to make use of hardware decoding of the timeline, pick your favorite color, green or red and move on with your life.

I've been happy with my RX480 for nearly three years. I bought it when nvidia didn't work as well as AMD with Vegas Pro. In Vegas Pro 15 and above, rendering to AMD VCE works well and I use it often for quick renders.

This will make interesting reading while you're nodding after Thanksgiving dinner.

My next hardware upgrade is ~ a year from now, so I may end up batting for the other team when I make a GPU hardware selection next fall. I've bled green before.

Enter the green team, stage left...

Reyfox wrote on 11/28/2019, 1:49 PM

I've been using a RX480 OC'ed 8GB, and with accelerated AMD VCE rendering, it uses most the GPU and a nice chunk of the CPU in VP16.

I too am planning on upgrading next year and will look at the state of video cards then. As of right now, the AMD 5700 series for me is a better choice, considering a beta test for the US Army and AMD works really really well.

fred-w wrote on 11/28/2019, 2:03 PM

Since you have the AMD cpu/board, maybe AMD. The 1160 is supposed to be coming out soon on NVIDIA side. I just bought the 2060, pretty good, a little above your budget, by about ($319. w promo code)...but I think you gain quite a bit.

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-gv-n2060wf2oc-6gd-r2/p/N82E16814932157?Item=N82E16814932157

Good overviews for this discussion:
https://techgage.com/article/exploring-magix-vegas-pro-16-gpu-performance/

https://chatteringgem.com/exploring-magix-vegas-pro-16-encode-playback-performance-techgage/

Former user wrote on 11/29/2019, 1:24 AM

In 2019, AMD cards are much less compatible with with a lot of encoding software in comparison to Nvidia cards. This is true of VegasPro, Davinci Resolve, and Premiere Pro and Handbrake (nightly). If you were to forever stay on VP16 the major negative is slow and lower quality H.264 GPU encoding in comparison to Nvidia Turing Nvenc. You are on previous year's revision so this wouldn't seem likely, and currently you will have incompatibilities with VP17 reducing timeline performance and rendering speed .

More modern encoding engines are able to use the Turing Nvenc chip of Gtx1660 for elements of encoding instead of using Cuda/OpenCl. This makes GPU's more efficient as they have more GPU available for video processing when rendering. Resolve is also able to use Tensor processors of Nvidia RTX cards for some visual effects

curt-danners wrote on 11/29/2019, 7:25 AM

thanks guys, i was leaning to the 590 prior to Bobs comments. i would like to future proof enough so that i can upgrade to 17, or 18 (16 works fine for what im doing) . im now leaning towards the 1660 fro the extra 60.00.

wwaag wrote on 11/30/2019, 1:03 PM

+1 for @Former user comments.

At the moment, V17 supports hardware decoding for Nvidia cards but not AMD. As an aside, HappyOtterScripts makes use of 3 open source apps for support of GPU assisted encoding. There are frequent updates to the Nvidia app (usually a couple a month), fewer for QSV (usually once every 3 months) and virtually none for the VCE app (the last was Dec 2018). There just doesn't seem to be as much general interest or support for AMD cards (plus at the moment only a few cards support B-frames during encoding). This may change in the future, but for the time being, I think staying with an Nvidia card is a good choice.