V15 Render Settings with a nVidia Card?

Kit-As-Was wrote on 9/1/2017, 9:25 PM

What are the preferred settings for rendering sussing a nVidia video card? The new Magix AVC/AAC MP4 format seems slower than the old Mainconcept one with no preferences changed from installation. The new Render dialogue seems an improvement though the estimated file size seems way out for mov files and the dropdown Render options button is inane - the option should all be on the main dialogue.

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NickHope wrote on 9/1/2017, 11:09 PM

What are the preferred settings for rendering sussing a nVidia video card? The new Magix AVC/AAC MP4 format seems slower than the old Mainconcept one with no preferences changed from installation.

Try using NVENC if you have a supported GPU.

...the dropdown Render options button is inane - the option should all be on the main dialogue.

I also dislike this change. I also wish the render options were just out there on the main dialog, like before. Especially "Render loop region only".

Kit-As-Was wrote on 9/2/2017, 7:37 AM
I also wish the render options were just out there on the main dialog, like before. Especially "Render loop region only".

Yes, what's the thinking behind that - some kind of memory exercise?

I have a GeForce GTX 550 card which I think is outside the range for NVENC.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 9/2/2017, 7:54 AM

Yes this card is too old. You ask about what the idea is? Maybe to support moderner GPUs, requested by many here.

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Kit-As-Was wrote on 9/2/2017, 4:51 PM

Yes this card is too old. You ask about what the idea is? Maybe to support moderner GPUs, requested by many here.


I didn't ask what the idea is. I asked for specific settings ideally to improve rendering times between V15 and V14 or at least to keep them the same. Any suggestions on that, thanks.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 9/2/2017, 6:23 PM

There are no specific settings that will help you I think. The Mainconcept encoder seems to be a newer one in VP 15, allows now NVENC with appropriate hardware. But with older GPUs you miss that advantage, and the encoder seems to be slower by 10 or 20% compared to the version of the Mainconcept encoder in VP14.

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Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

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NickHope wrote on 9/2/2017, 10:48 PM

Besides the NVENC encoder, the MainConcept CPU encoder (mc_enc_avc.dll) within the "Magix" AVC renderer is a newer version than in the MC renderer in previous versions of Vegas. These are the files on my system:

  • VP10 - 8.5.0.14265
  • VP12 - 9.7.9.5738
  • VP13 - 9.7.9.5738
  • VP14 - 9.7.9.5738
  • VP15 - 9.7.9.5738 (in the legacy encoder enabled in internal preferences)
  • VP15 - 10.0.14.2531 (in the "MainConcept" mode of the Magix AVC renderer)
     

I can't find a changelog from MC, but I'd hope to see some improvement in the VP15 version. Maybe it's "10-20% slower" because the quality is improved for the same settings?

Former user wrote on 9/3/2017, 3:57 AM

"Maybe it's "10-20% slower" because the quality is improved for the same settings?"

Most likely the case and to be welcomed if true, a little bit of info from Magix on this would be useful.