Options -- (HOLD SHIFT) Click Preferences --- Click Internal Tab -- look for ENABLE SO4 COMPOUND and change the value to false.

That disables loading of all my MOV files. Did not help though.

I'm not @Grazie, but I think he meant this setting

@j-v - Yes “he” did 😉. Thanks @j-v. 😎

It will be truly interesting if @walter-born gets a better result. I’d really like to hear back from @walter-born. I’m amazed that such an important Control is way at the bottom of the Menu, almost as if it was a late addition to our beloved VP.

That setting is already set the way you say.

Make sure you have the latest Nvidia studio driver installed, not the game ready drivers.

Yes, it is, did that the same time when I got V17

"DJI Osmo Video" > DJI Osmo Pocket?

Pocket!

Here are my project video settings:

I believe the solution so far had been setting the RAM preview to 0.
Tried that, tried several different render settings. All came through fine. Including Nvenc and GPU activated. Just for test I set RAM preview to 2000. Crashed.

It definitely not helped to disable MOV support. Would render some of my footage unusable. Could not open project.

Now I will check whether instant save can be reactivated and preview on timeline can be re-activated plus see whether sub timeline can be used as well.

Activating instant save sems to be ok. Rendering with added sub works

Then opening sub timeline again leads to crash. When opening it, the main instance crashes, then the sub timeline.

Other factors to eliminate: 1) try not running over network to NAS. 2) Try different media types.

A lot of Vegas problems like this are related to media Vegas doesn't "like." Process of elimination may help discover the culprit. Posting MEDIAINFO listings for us to see may also help.

Other factors to eliminate: 1) try not running over network to NAS. 2) Try different media types.

A lot of Vegas problems like this are related to media Vegas doesn't "like." Process of elimination may help discover the culprit. Posting MEDIAINFO listings for us to see may also help.

You are right, Vegas does not like NAS Data. I already eliminated this since V16 by keeping project I am working with on a local SSD.

So Vegas does not "like" Mavic/Osmo/Iphone footage.
What kind of Video processor do you propose for those data formats?
Is there an EASY way to bulk convert these to some format Vegas actually "likes"?
And why is V17 not capable working seamless with widespread formats like the above mentioned while V16 does?
Is there a whitelist of data accepted by V17?

Many questions, I know. The answers should be written in the original V17 advertizing.

@walter-born

1) So you have determined absolutely that those three footage types are all causing problems? I am only suggesting they MIGHT be causing problems.

2) Handbrake (free) can "sanitize" files. There are many other paid options for transcoding. FFMPEG is a goto for this kind of thing. Wayne Waag's Happy Otter Scripts (free?) or Vegasaur can act as a front end for this.

3) They are not really widespread "industry standard" formats. They are recently introduced, often oddball variants used primarily for the benefit of consumer electronics companies rather than oriented towards accepted video standards (eg variable frame rates.)

4) No. It would change almost daily.

Vegas dev's will be actively working on bug fixes as we speak. I would expect a series of updates over the next few months to mop up most of the common issues. That's why it's important to post your problem media details - the dev's are watching!

1) No, I did not determine anything but just seem to have the problems:)
2) Will try, I just have to know which foootage format V16/17 "likes" most so I can transform mine to that format without trying.
3) So you say firms like Apple or Dji are producing oddball products and only recently entered the market?

You conclude that Vegas dev´s have no idea about those strange and not very known formats that Apple and Dji use and depend on my input to develop their software to a point that it can be used by amateurs like me without fiddling for hours(days)?

That leads me to the question what hardware I should use so Vegas is seamlessly capable of working with the footage produced? Or the other way, which Video Processor to use for the hardware I have?

In short:
What is the preferred footage format for Vegas (any version) ?
What is the hardware Vegas "likes" for producing AND working with the produced footage?
What kind of computer is best? (hard+soft)

@walter-born

Ehem.... Do I owe you something? No.

You are too aggressive, too demanding, AND DON'T don't put words in my mouth. You are on your own buddy!

Sorry you wasted my time.

Sorry, I didn´t want to be rude to you personally. (but to Magix: big YES)

I am just totally frustrated with Vegas since I tried for almost 2 weeks finishing a 3 minute clip and then hearing that my footage might be odd format and Vegas is not made for consumer electronics hardware.

I just try to find out what Vegas is made for so I can decide whether I go and waste my time and money with it or just get a refund and wait until the software is worth the money they ask for.

And yes, you do not owe me anything. Magix does, they took my money and gave me a piece of sh...unfinished software and threw me on this forum to waste your time and others time as well. This is their fault, not mine. They should have delivered what they promised and nobody would ever fill this forum with his frustration.

Walter Born, my biggest assumption now is the iPhone footages... (I only assume it is similar to my Android phones footages too, it has variable frame rate) - try convert to Magix Intermediate format.

As for DJI osmo pocket clips - that still more stable than my Android phones.

I only speak from my experience editing these files on my different platforms - one is the old i950 intel with AMD Radeon RX570 series graphic - quite stable.

But when I change into my ROG laptop (ASUS ROG Strix Hero II GL504GM - i7 8750H with GTX 1060), I can feel some trouble editing my android phone media or my friends.

DJI osmo pocket still more stable although it does give some issues too. - but I just keep going and keep routinely save the project.

Of course I had little 'exploded-up' frustration in the end too 😞 (throwing my mouse😞) when several times rendering, I had freezes in the middle... To deal with this in the end, I make several regions per one minute, then do batch render per region to Magix Intermediate.

Not sure if this info helpful... but I just share my experience.

Converting might be a solution. Just looking at Vegasaur proposed by Kinvermark.

Saving the project is a good solution not to loose your work.

I really appreciated the new instant save function. But I also believe that this function has some trouble with undo/redo function (causing hanging and/or crashing when using undo...)

@ walter,

it is a fact that those type of footage is not optimized fo editing. This is something that is also expressed in lower playback performance, and that not only in Vegas but also for example in Edius. Take iphone as an example - and it does not mattet if an iphone is an Apple product. But Apple has the intention to allow their customers (and I use an iphone xr too) to generate short clips for fun. But it is never the intention of Apple to generate footage for editing for an tv or broadcast purposes. Otherwise you should not see variable framerates as you find then in some of those products. If you intend to do so, I for example use FilmicPro with my iphone

The cameras that are more typical used are products of Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Red, more and more Blackmagic for example.

But you are right: even the footage discussed here should work with Vegas. But there are problems.

Are you able to identify specific clips that make your problems? Does the render process stop at certain clips? To convert the clips would make sense.

Ok, then I will check FilmicPro as well. Also Vegasaur seems to look quite performant, but I am unsure whether it will solve the footage situation.

For example I had the finished working clip in V17 (with mixed content of all of my hardware, then added a row of (more) iphone(6s and XSmax) photos on a track and boom, wouldn´t want to render. Memory error back. Have to say though that this was not a problem in V16.

I have been applying all the settings I have been given in this forum and what I found in the support texts.
So far we have Apple files detected as probable source of error.

What about Osmo Pocket and Mavic Pro 2 settings for footage compatible. On the Mavic I use those recomended by Arthur Konze .
Is there a setting that works without converting?
 

I do not know that since I do not use that footage.

In the german forum I got the info that templates created with V16 opened by V17 lead to memory overflow and crashing which explains most of my problem.

Now I have only to find out whether there is an easy way to convert footage to Vegas likes before working in Vegas. Also need to know which format would be best. All my footage is 4K.

I use the classic Ultimate S Pro 4 ( http://vasstsoftware.com/product/ultimate-s-pro/ ) that contains Batch Render tool to batch render the footages.

Besides of Ultimate S Pro 4, you can do similar thing too with Vegasaur ( https://vegasaur.com/Vegasaur ) via, perhaps, 'Transcoder' function.

Both are a combined script that do automatic process within the Vegas functions.

If I choose which format is the best - my option will be 'Magix Intermediate' (it is a ProRes-equal format)

Alternative way to try (may / may not work): Select your medias in Project media tab > right click> Create video proxy.

By this way, all preview purposes and editing will be using proxy file (.sfvp0 format similar to MPEG2) - but during rendering, it will automatically using original media.

@walter-born I suspect you may be fighting on two fronts simultaneously, and so the difficulty of resolving your issue. The first one, as I think Set identified is iPhone footage, it may be vfr and or even of hevc type, if so then even harder to handle.. The second front you are probably fighting on is that there may also be some memory/resource issues in VP17, there are several other threads pointing to this.

Convert your iPhone media to a good quality intermediate and see if that helps complete your project.

These are some suitable intermediate file types.

I did not like Proxies in V16 already.
Do you use ultimate s pro to convert footage to Magix Intermediate before putting it on a timeline?

That is what I understand. Same with Vegasaur then I guess?