V20 and BCC+ FX Editor crash

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Grazie wrote on 8/17/2022, 3:14 AM

@Dexcon - Yeah, noted this about a week ago. This Halfway house is no restaurant, you can see it but can’t use it. Just indicates what the level of expertise is needed to:

a) Appreciate the urgent needs of the user.

b) Have the where with all funding to employ Partnership working.

The pips are squeaking, please communicate with each other. We know you can do it.

bitman wrote on 8/18/2022, 3:38 AM

@fr0sty the very recent BCC 15.5.2 boris update indeed fixed the crash for Vegas 20, but can you push the Vegas team to fix the Vegas part, so the FX Editor window can be used again (as it still works in vegas pro 19) or provide a quick workaround (maybe copy some dll from 19 folder) in the mean time...

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fr0sty wrote on 8/18/2022, 3:41 AM

Can you describe specifically what is going wrong with the FX editor window? I don't have the plugin to test it myself. Derek did say they're working with Boris on a fix, so chances are they're already on it, but if I don't see any mentions of this being fixed in the next update, I'll remind them.

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Dexcon wrote on 8/18/2022, 4:06 AM

Using a BCC+ FX in VP19, the BCC+ FX Editor opens a window as follows:

In VP20, the FX Editor for the same BCC+ plugin looks like this:

This is much better since BorisFX released BCC 15.5.2 the other day because previously, just clicking on the FX Editor button in VP20 resulted in the white screen of "nothing more is going to happen here".

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MikeS wrote on 8/28/2022, 7:57 AM

Any hint on when Vegas is going to release their fixed version?

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Reyfox wrote on 8/28/2022, 8:04 AM

+1. But I can wait. It's working on VP19.

Grazie wrote on 8/28/2022, 9:32 AM

Any hint on when Vegas is going to release their fixed version?

@MikeS - It’s only been 10 days since @VEGASDerek announced that they were working on a collaborative fix:

We are aware of this problem and are working with Boris on a fix.

That’s as much as we know.

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Steve_Rhoden wrote on 8/28/2022, 11:03 AM

Sent another reminder to them also on getting this urgently fixed, just hoping it can be sorted in the coming update.

Grazie wrote on 8/28/2022, 11:23 AM

@Steve_Rhoden - Yes!

Gid wrote on 9/10/2022, 3:46 PM

@VEGASDerek Has there been any news on getting this fixed? It seems Boris have done all they can.

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MikeS wrote on 9/11/2022, 11:36 AM

Boris did all they could several weeks ago (which seems to pretty much have been to add the equivalent of 'On Error resume Next" to their code, the error coming from Vegas Pro). Messaging at that time from Boris and Vegas indicated on the 11th Aug that Vegas both knew of the issue, what the fix was, and was working on it. Since then ... nothing, I know they are a small team, but radio silence is not a good look ...

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Steve_Rhoden wrote on 9/11/2022, 1:49 PM

@MikeS  No, it's not radio silence. The developers are resolving this and other issues as we speak.

MikeS wrote on 9/11/2022, 2:17 PM

They may well be, I am not suggesting otherwise. But they are not communicating that, or helping to set user expectations. That's what radio silence is in this context. Compare and contrast to how Boris FX responded.

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MikeS wrote on 9/12/2022, 4:21 AM

Just to be clear here, I am not trying to be critical of Vegas pro 20 as a product. For me, 20 has proved much more robust and stable than eg 18 or 19. And, perhaps counterintuitively, that is a source of frustration because right now I am forced to work completely in 19 for any project that might use any of the BCC+ effects. and I'd love for everything to be in 20, and just want to know how long I am going to have to wait before I am going to be able move all of my work over to a great product that I paid good money for. Even just a ball park figure.

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Gid wrote on 9/24/2022, 5:10 AM

It's fixed, on my machine anyway & the presets seem to load quicker than they used to in the FX Editor -

Comment on the Boris forum -

jclementLeader

Hi,

There is a new Continuum 2022.5 patch which resolves the issue with the FX Editor and Mocha not showing frames in BCC+ filters in Vegas 20. If you re-download Continuum 2022.5 from the Boris FX website you will receive version 15.5.2B which contains this fix.

Cheers,
Jason

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Reyfox wrote on 9/24/2022, 5:18 AM

@Gid and what about non BCC+, what about the FX Browser in other BCC plugins?

Gid wrote on 9/24/2022, 5:20 AM

@Reyfox  Dunno, hold on, opening VP20 now.....

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Gid wrote on 9/24/2022, 5:32 AM

@Reyfox I tried about 10 - 12 fx's, the Browser worked in them 👍

 

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Reyfox wrote on 9/24/2022, 6:07 AM

@Gid, AWESOME! Thanks for reporting back!

Gid wrote on 9/24/2022, 6:35 AM

@Reyfox That was on a still image, a jpg, I tried it on one mp4 & all seems fine so I'll try some more later & maybe different video formats ..👍

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bitman wrote on 9/25/2022, 6:39 AM

Yes! It seems fixed, just quickly tried it with bcc+ sunset before 15.5.2 and after 15.5.2b and indeed we have our editor window back with contend to adjust.

Just a pity that nothing is mentioned in the BCC release notes that there is a new version with a fix...

And the download section still mentions 15.5.2, but you get 15.5.2b, a bit sneaky...

Still, I am happy and thanks for reporting @Gid

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MikeS wrote on 9/25/2022, 2:46 PM

Yep! Happy to confirm that the BCC+ FX Editor previews work fine with 15.5.2b here. But why seemingly sneak this out?

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weinerschizel wrote on 10/4/2022, 2:15 PM

I wonder if this is why my instance of Vegas 20 has gone completely unstable. It worked fine since purchasing it in August. Now as of yesterday it stopped working. I load a project and shortly after loading (or during) it will black screen me, sometimes I can recover and other times I have to hard reset my editing machine. I'm here searching the forum for potential solutions.

I find the BCC license section / download installers to be very confusing. I tried to download the update to BCC but I cannot find it on their website.

I have a license for "Continuum Premium Filters - Multi-host" However, I don't see that option on "Products" dropdown when I click download installers. Furthermore I assume Vegas is the OFX Host?

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Gid wrote on 10/4/2022, 3:26 PM

@weinerschizel Hi, I have the Multi host version too, at the top of their page - Support - Downloads,  If you download the Continuum OFX it give you the 15-5-2b version which is the fix for FX Browser.

https://borisfx.com/downloads/?product=continuum

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