Vegas 11

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ushere wrote on 9/9/2011, 7:09 PM
actually EDL - edit decision list. the foundation stone of any video edit (linear OR non-linear).
AtomicGreymon wrote on 9/9/2011, 7:44 PM
I have to admit, I was pretty pleased to see this in my Inbox this evening. I'm still using 9, and I also tend to go by the "every other version" philosophy. The new features mentioned so far only seem to be a partial list, so I'm looking forward to finding out what else might be new.

I'll be picking up this as early as possible, hopefully to take advantage of the limited time lower-than-normal upgrade pricing (assuming Sony does that again, this time).
Chienworks wrote on 9/9/2011, 7:56 PM
EDI is Electronic Document Interchange. It's what i do all day, day after day, for my paychecks. Ugh!

And no, you don't wanna know.
Mikeof7 wrote on 9/9/2011, 10:44 PM
I finally broke down and bought 10 in July. If only I'd waited a few more weeks.
Maybe I can call and beg them to see that I've purchased every version since Videofactory 2.0. Generate some tears...will it work?
Steve Mann wrote on 9/9/2011, 10:50 PM
Dan: "I looking for a good deplate to build from."

Look in this forum for rendertest, download the results database and look at the fastest systems. The password is vegasuser.
xberk wrote on 9/9/2011, 10:54 PM
Create your own professional-looking titles with the ProType Titler tool, which has been improved for simpler timeline interaction
.. Looking forward to a better ProType Titler ..

NEW EVENT SYNC ...

Not sure I understand the benefit of something like this...can anyone think of an example where this would be useful?



Paul B .. PCI Express Video Card: EVGA VCX 10G-P5-3885-KL GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA ,,  Intel Core i9-11900K Desktop Processor ,,  MSI Z590-A PRO Desktop Motherboard LGA-1200 ,, 64GB (2X32GB) XPG GAMMIX D45 DDR4 3200MHz 288-Pin SDRAM PC4-25600 Memory .. Seasonic Power Supply SSR-1000FX Focus Plus 1000W ,, Arctic Liquid Freezer II – 360MM .. Fractal Design case ,, Samsung Solid State Drive MZ-V8P1T0B/AM 980 PRO 1TB PCI Express 4 NVMe M.2 ,, Wundiws 10 .. Vegas Pro 19 Edit

vegasmon wrote on 9/10/2011, 7:30 AM
What ever happened to the cinescore replacement ?? Why doesn't Sony work out their differences with smartsound and adapt their plugin ??
The broken promise for a Cinescore replacement has put a bad taste in my mouth.

rcdanek wrote on 9/10/2011, 8:25 AM
Regarding: "Not sure I understand the benefit of something like this...can anyone think of an example where this would be useful?"

Titles? ...when the main event moves, they move with it. When you tweak a title, the main event is unaffected.
surferj45 wrote on 9/10/2011, 10:25 AM
For DVDA...at the very least give me a stroke capability on the text and maybe tracking and leading. I struggle quite often with making the text stand out on my menu backgrounds with only shadow turned on.
Editguy43 wrote on 9/10/2011, 12:02 PM
Still no tabbed projects, ( i would like to be able to just click a tab to change to another project rather than have to launch a whole new session of Vegas) no GUI improvements, (works good but is long in the tooth) still does not seem to have the tools to play nice with the "industry standard NLE's".

The new improvements to the stabilizer is welcome, better titling (WHOO HOO) man i hope it really works.

Event Sync? is it like grouping? not sure how I would use that.

Improved 3D? never used the "old 3D" for me the text tools and better stabilization might be worth the price. Also if the GPU acceleration makes full HD AVCHD smoother count me in.

I really like the music in intro movie it is pretty cool.

Paul B
Arthur.S wrote on 9/10/2011, 12:36 PM
"Blu-Ray pop-up menus are done in BD-J, or Blu-ray Disc Java. sony could, in theory, add some boilerplate BD-J options, but I doubt that you will see it in Vegas because of the licensing costs: BD-J JavaDocStubs License starts at $2500/year per seat.

Maybe that's one of the reasons for the $50,000 price tag on Sony Blu-Print."

TMPGEnc authoring works 4 can produce pop-up menus...and it's a fraction of the price. How come they can afford/do it, and a giant like Sony can't? I guess that goes down the same road as AC-3 not going on the timeline, when other cheaper products have that capability. Sometimes Sony's thinking just doesn't seem to be 'joined up'.
Byron K wrote on 9/10/2011, 3:49 PM
Really, nothing on the video or the features page that shows anything "new", only enhancements to existing Pro Titler, compatibility w/ 3rd party plugins many of which they already have in V10, CC, dunno, am I missing something spectacular here.

At least 10 came w/ featuring CUDA, stabilizer and white balance and Boris compatibility, though I don't really use the white balance and stabilizer, these were pretty significant upgrade features especially Boris compatibility, imho.

I generally like to keep up w/ Vegas Studio upgrades because I have friends who use it so I have it so I can help them out but I told them to pass on Studio 11. Looks like I may pass on VP11 too unless something stellar is under the hood that they are keeping under wraps. (:

I may asking you folks, what to purchase w/ the money I was going to use to upgrade to VP11. ((;
farss wrote on 9/10/2011, 4:27 PM
"Event Sync? is it like grouping? not sure how I would use that."

As I haven't seen it I can only guess that it's what I've been after many years.

Say you have one track of vision and multiple tracks of audio, probably from a field recorder. Very common if you shoot events or are shooting with a vDSLR.

This new feature will let you tell Vegas all those events MUST stay in sync. Although that can be achieved with Grouping, groups don't stick and don't give you any warning if you slip something.

If this feature is what I think it is then it is one of the best features added to Vegas in a long time. Ppro has had something similar from before the start of the century.

Bob.
xberk wrote on 9/10/2011, 5:43 PM
>>If this feature is what I think it is then it is one of the best features added to Vegas in >>a long time.

I agree Bob. Lately I'm being doing things that involve using an H1 Zoom recorder that I blend with the live sound taken on my camera .. I sync it up easily but as I go through the editing, I often lose sync despite using groups to maintain sync. I'm hoping this new feature will help keep things together with a permanent link. I can see the use for it to maintain titles in position too. Could be a significant time saver.

Paul B .. PCI Express Video Card: EVGA VCX 10G-P5-3885-KL GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA ,,  Intel Core i9-11900K Desktop Processor ,,  MSI Z590-A PRO Desktop Motherboard LGA-1200 ,, 64GB (2X32GB) XPG GAMMIX D45 DDR4 3200MHz 288-Pin SDRAM PC4-25600 Memory .. Seasonic Power Supply SSR-1000FX Focus Plus 1000W ,, Arctic Liquid Freezer II – 360MM .. Fractal Design case ,, Samsung Solid State Drive MZ-V8P1T0B/AM 980 PRO 1TB PCI Express 4 NVMe M.2 ,, Wundiws 10 .. Vegas Pro 19 Edit

Hulk wrote on 9/10/2011, 8:03 PM
The GPU acceleration is always interesting but ... call me a cynical... I'll believe it when I see real world testing showing a powerful GPU beating by at least 50% a 2500k CPU. That would be something.

But I fear it will be incompatibility issues and zero or near zero performance improvement beyond what a $200 CPU (2500k) can do by itself

I hope Sony can make it happen...
AtomicGreymon wrote on 9/10/2011, 8:38 PM
TMPGEnc authoring works 4 can produce pop-up menus...and it's a fraction of the price. How come they can afford/do it, and a giant like Sony can't? I guess that goes down the same road as AC-3 not going on the timeline, when other cheaper products have that capability. Sometimes Sony's thinking just doesn't seem to be 'joined up'.

I have to admit, this is something I've been curious about as well. Although I'm currently still using CS3 of Adobe's apps (planning to upgrade with CS6 next year), I believe the most recent versions of Encore also have the ability to do pop-up BD menus, from what I've read. Admittedly, it's not as cheap as TMPGEnc's Authoring Works, but it's more-or-less equivalent to DVDA price-wise and how it comes bundled with its associated NLE.

So is there some kind of non-BD-J "cheat" these other programs are using, have the licensing costs for BD-J come down of late (it's gotta happen eventually; Blu-Ray's been around for a few years, now), or is Sony just not willing to invest the money in that aspect of DVDA?

While it doesn't really bother me, since I haven't yet needed to make use of that feature (and I suppose I'll be able to once the CS6 Master Collection comes out and I get a newer version of Encore), I am kind of curious to know the reasons behind it.
PeterDuke wrote on 9/10/2011, 9:59 PM
"For DVDA...at the very least give me a stroke capability on the text and maybe tracking and leading"

I'll second, third and fourth that!
Wadro65 wrote on 9/10/2011, 10:18 PM
I would like to see a stroke added to the credit roll too.
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 9/11/2011, 12:52 AM
I imagine that a decent investment in a GPU $200-$400 will result in an appropriate improvement. I am running GTX 260's for my current GPU stuffs, but I plan to buy in on GTX 500 series when the 600's come out unless the 600's are so much more powerful with the new cores. The 600's have been postponed due to manufacturing difficulties for the 28nm (or is it 26nm?) cores. But I do 3D modeling and rendering so I use the GPU so I've already got some money in them for certain things.
Massimo Rossi wrote on 9/11/2011, 4:54 AM
Guys,

John is right and he has pinpointed the problem: it's the FIRST time in Vegas history we see GPU acceleration for most heavy tasks: video FX, transitions, compositing, pan/crop, track motion, which all together form a HUGE amount of work for our CPUs right now.

It depends on how it is implemented, but this new feature really may be THE new feature, the one which, after a decade of use, can really bring Vegas to a new level, saving us hours (if not days) of preview and rendering time and boosting productivity like no one else.

Remember the computational power of modern GPU is really impressive, unbelievable. Imagine to put on the timeline 4-5 Full HD clips in PiP, each clip having video FX, crop, transitions and see the final result immediately, as soon as you hit "play", without prerendering, SHIFT-B and so on...

I've been longing for such feature for years and now I'm really really curious to try it. And, even if it won't work at full speed and functionality since its first version, it can be improved in subsequent releases, so I think Sony is taking the right direction.

Bye.
Grazie wrote on 9/11/2011, 5:52 AM
Yes. It's been a long time coming.

However, proof of puddings etc etc....

Grazie

paul_w wrote on 9/11/2011, 6:24 AM
Just wanted to say i actually really like the advert Sony have made on the Vegas 11 page. I cant remember seeing glossy ads for Vegas before? Good to see they upped the game and made it looking slick. Not just stuffy logical data specs etc. Its supposed to be a creative tool, not a scientific calculator. The point being, hopefully now other NLE users may start to take Vegas seriously, add to that Magic Bullet coming back on line and its got the wow factor, for me at least. Looking forward to GPU enhanced previews and real time effects etc. Most welcome.

Paul.
drewU2 wrote on 9/11/2011, 8:06 AM
I am excited to see what the new titling features look like. I have been using FCPX since it came out side by side with SVP10, and I can say that the titling and effects are the only things that FCPX has over SVP10.

In terms of the stabilizer feature, I am hoping we have 1) more functionality and 2) a KEYBOARD SHORTCUT!! No matter what I do, I haven't been able to create or find a keyboard shortcut for the stabilizer...and I use it a lot because I do event cinematography and it is priceless.

In terms of the GPU helping the video preview to look more smooth after applying effects, I'll be shocked if it actually helps...but I hope it does!

Finally, I have never shot in 3D but I am thankful that SVP11 and forward will be ready to handle 3D when the camera prices come down to earth.

PS....after using FCPX side by side with SVP10 over the past 45 days, I can say that Apple is way over-hyped. Seriously, it takes 2-3 keyboard shortcuts to do what SVP10 can do in one click. I don't know why SVP10 isn't mentioned in the same breath with the other major NLEs...Sony, I am happy to pay the upgrade price. Thanks for your work.
T Reynolds wrote on 9/11/2011, 11:07 AM
To sum up: Vegas Pro 11 gets something similar to Adobe Mercury Playback Engine !
You only have to look the YOU TUBE video
Also consider this ,maybe this could be the first video edit program that can use
2 GPUs to edit and render .And if that is the case, I can delay updating to SB or BD
from Quad 2 Core and just add a GTX460 to double the GFLOP Power.
Lets hope so.