Vegas 19 also installs Boris Particle Illusion

walter-i. wrote on 10/12/2021, 3:32 AM

I bought and installed Vegas Edit 19 365 with Boris Title Studio.
Boris Particle Illusion was apparently also installed by mistake, although I had checked "show licensed plugins".

However, Boris Illusion can only be opened from the Windows start window and is not visible in Vegas.   

Can I do anything with it at all?

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Dexcon wrote on 10/12/2021, 3:45 AM

It seems like you've got the Standalone (SAL) version of Particle Illusion which is free.

Even though it is a SAL, it can still be used though without any reference in its workspace to background video. Once you've created a project in PI, it can be rendered to .mov or .mp4 via File/Render Project and then import the render into Vegas Pro.

BTW, make sure that you download and install the Particle Emitters (free) from BorisFX's website:

https://borisfx.com/downloads/?product=particle%20illusion

to get the best out of PI.

The Particle Illusion product webpage gives quite a lot of examples of what can be done with PI:

https://borisfx.com/products/particle-illusion/

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Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

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walter-i. wrote on 10/12/2021, 4:08 AM

Thank you for your super explanation, @Dexcon

Once you've created a project in PI, it can be rendered to .mov or .mp4 via File/Render Project and then import the render into Vegas Pro

that's exactly what I was looking for, but unfortunately this entry is missing in the file menu

Edit:
For information, I have not installed Particle Emitters at the moment - could this be the reason?.

Dexcon wrote on 10/12/2021, 4:33 AM

... unfortunately this entry is missing in the file menu

I've checked the 'About PI' in your pic upload, and the PI you've got is out-of-date, from December 2019. The latest version is 2021.5 released on 7 September this year. My suggestion is to download the latest version from the BorisFX download page given in the earlier comment. PI SAL is free but you'll likely still have to go to your BorisFX account to get the download - along with the emitters - but I imagine that you would've had to have created a Boris account to get the current PI you have working (unless you already had an account of course).

I've seen it mentioned on this or BorisFX's forum maybe a year ago that the export function was available in PI SAL, and it does appear for me in the 2021.5 build.

You might also want to download and install BorisFX's App Manager - https://borisfx.com/downloads/?product=app%20manager - as this can let you know under the Products/Free Products menu item when updates are available. When an update is available, the update button changes from 'greyed out' to 'black and white'.

@walter-i.

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Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

walter-i. wrote on 10/12/2021, 4:54 AM

@Dexcon

Thank you for the helpful explanation!
I will first check the Boris product page to see if Particle Illusion fits into my workflow at all and I will decide how to proceed after checking.  
As I said, it was installed without my intervention in the course of installing Vegas Edit 19 and the included BCC Title Studio.
By the way, Title Studio looks very good - and seems to be a real enrichment for Vegas.

Anyway, thanks for your time - have a nice day.
Walter

misohoza wrote on 10/12/2021, 5:34 AM

If you have Title Studio 2020 be careful when installing the latest version of Particle Illusions (2021.5). They are both part of the Continuum. You can have only one version installed. Installing the latest version might invalidate your older Title Studio.

Dexcon wrote on 10/12/2021, 5:46 AM

A good point @misohoza ... but I wonder if IP SAL - which is not an OFX plugin (it is not installed based on your NLE whether that be Adobe, Avid or OFXs like Vegas) ) - would interfere with BCC OFX plugins/filters from an earlier or later version? Has anyone got a recent version of IP SAL working okay with an earlier version of BCC installed? Or vice-a-versa?

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

walter-i. wrote on 10/12/2021, 8:31 AM

If you have Title Studio 2020 be careful when installing the latest version of Particle Illusions (2021.5). They are both part of the Continuum. You can have only one version installed. Installing the latest version might invalidate your older Title Studio.

Thanks for the warning.
In the meantime, I have studied the BCC page a bit and realised that I won't need Particel Illusion.
I actually wanted to uninstall it - but that doesn't seem to be so easy, there is only one BCC entry in the settings - and I don't want to destroy Title Studio.
Too bad - if you follow other threads about BCC, they seem to have a somewhat strange policy with nesting their application. Probably marketing-driven.

Now I have found a way to uninstall Particle Illusion - but I might destroy Title Studio - I think I'll leave it alone.