I started a new project set to vertical 1080p and 59.94fps. But the timecode on the timeline is counting at 29.97fps, not 59.94fps. It gets to frame 29 then ticks over to 00. Vegas recognizes my clip as 59.940 under the preview window, and the project properties still say the project is 59.940fps. So why is the timecode wrong?
On top of that, if I increment frames one at a time on the timeline (using the arrow keys), the timecode only advances every second frame.
This is version 23, build 302.
Usually the timeline timecode reflects your project settings irrespective of your media, after all you might have mixed media in your project.
If your project is set to 59.94 but the timecode is behaving as if 29.97 then it rather looks like a bug?
It's a similar situation with how the Timecode fX displays its values.
@Prizm It sounds like your video is actually 29.97 fps. It takes 2 frames at 59.94fps to equal 1 frame at 29.97fps. That's why you see repeated frames.
The frame rate under the preview window is the project frame rate, not the video 's frame rate. What do you have for Resample Mode in Project Properties? Try Frame Blend or Optical Flow (which slows Vegas) so Vegas will interpolate and it will look like your video is 59.94fps where each frame will show movement instead of repeating frames. The other thing to do is just make the project 29.97fps so it matches your video to begin with.
The videos frame rate and other info are listed in the bottom of the Project Media panel.
It sounds like your video is actually 29.97 fps.
We need the MediaInfo as requested by RogerS earlier.
Irrespective of what the media's framerate actually is the timecode shouldn't tick over as described by Prizm in their first post.
I don't see a program bug with media that's actually 59.94p with Project Properties frame rate setting at 59.94p and the Ruler set to Time & Frames.
We could use sample media as suggested.
@Prizm It sounds like your video is actually 29.97 fps. It takes 2 frames at 59.94fps to equal 1 frame at 29.97fps. That's why you see repeated frames.
Maybe I should've explained it better, I'm not seeing repeated frames, I'm seeing 60 unique frames but the displayed timecode is only incrementing every second unique frame. E.g., there are two unique frames that both have a timecode of 00:01;15.
This is happening with any ~60fps video clip that I add to a new 60fps Vegas project (59.94fps clips from my phone, 60fps clips that I rendered with DaVinci Resolve, 59.94fps clips downloaded from YouTube, etc).
@Prizm @Prizm The timeline display is based on the Project Properties Ruler Tab setting. Choose Absolute Frames or Time and Frames.
Thank you, when I select Time and Frames, the timecode now shows the correct framerate.
Usually the timeline timecode reflects your project settings irrespective of your media, after all you might have mixed media in your project.
Perhaps everyone replying here has already manually ticked the box to apply the Time and Frames format to all new projects? Or you only work with 29.97 media and never noticed?
It seems to be a really bad oversight. After a new install and when starting a new Vegas project, the timecode should match the selected project settings by default. I've never seen another editor mismatch new project settings by default like this.
I noticed the new welcome screen when you first open Vegas also has an option to start a 120fps project (see screenshot). But when starting the project, the timeline still defaults to 29.97, even before adding any clips.
Also when you choose "Advanced Settings" (see screenshot), there is a dropdown list of presets. Can anyone find a preset for 1080p at 59/60fps? I don't see it. It seems there's a lot of relics from the past that hopefully they'll get around to fixing.
@Prizm said: "Thank you, when I select Time and Frames, the timecode now shows the correct framerate."
Setting the Ruler appears to be a solution to your immediate issue.
"Also when you choose "Advanced Settings" (see screenshot), there is a dropdown list of presets. Can anyone find a preset for 1080p at 59/60fps? I don't see it. It seems there's a lot of relics from the past that hopefully they'll get around to fixing."
I've wondered why the list of presets is scant, but you can create your own for the types of projects that you do, never to have to do it again when you start a new project.
I don't expect developers to anticipate all the combinations that Vegas Pro users might want even though 1080p60 seems common enough.
PS I hate Welcome Screens! I turn them off as soon as I can.
My VP23 trial has expired so I cannot check there. With VP21 I've never touched the Project Properties Ruler and "Times & Frames setting". Actually I've never looked at it as wasn't aware of its significance. By default it's on "Times & Frames" so I've never encountered a problem.
@Prizm @john_dennis What is the default setting in your VP23? @Prizm if yours is not "Times & Frames' could you have accidentally changed it and saved it as part of your settings for new projects?
@EricLNZ I restored my laptop out-of-the box system image for Vegas 23-302. It was
PS I hate Welcome Screens! I turn them off as soon as I can.
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PS I hate Welcome Screens! I turn them off as soon as I can.
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@john_dennis Thanks for your default setting response. Perhaps something has changed. I also now recall that on the rare occasions I have fiddled with the timeline ruler settings I have done so from the timeline, not Project settings. As you will know right clicking top left of the timeline area brings up options including Time Format.
I've just noticed useful other options. How does one get ones head, especially at my age, around all the useful tricks tucked away in Vegas 😀