Vegas color grading vs other tools

Mindmatter wrote on 6/28/2024, 6:00 AM

Hi all,

just wondering why the Vegas color grading is generally, to my eyes at least, somewhat not as intuitive as it could be. At the risk of sounding somewhat peculiar, I never liked color wheels. Whenever I work with Lightroom's sliders, or tools lîke BCC's saturation EQ, I can get to what I need and like to see happen so much faster. Any thoughts on this?

 

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RogerS wrote on 6/28/2024, 6:58 AM

That's a fairly antiquated interface. Try the color curves, not the 3 way color corrector, for selective color changes.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 6/28/2024, 7:41 AM

@Mindmatter Well, Vegas color grading has more options than needing to use the 3 way color wheel in getting your desired look..... You may not like color wheels, but its the standard in professional color grading across the board.

Mindmatter wrote on 6/28/2024, 12:40 PM

@Steve_Rhoden that might be so, but I still would like the option of working with sliders. I also know that there are more options in vegas then the wheels, I still get much faster results with the "antiquated" type interface. Three sliders, hue, luma and saturation, the ability to even move them within the hue spectrum of that particular color after you pick the exact color you want with the picker - brilliant. How intuitive is that? Colorfast 2 has the option of exactly defining where highlights, midtones and shadows start and end or overlap, and color grade them accordingly which is great.

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john_dennis wrote on 6/28/2024, 1:51 PM

While you can see that I make use of many Adobe Products, do the sliders in the Vegas Color Grading Panel not work for you?

I don't tend to use Color Wheels, either.

Mindmatter wrote on 6/30/2024, 10:03 AM

Not really, as their design is completely different. I'd like them do offer the chosen / respective hue's saturation and luma. There could then be one set for each color you pick, preferably like at least 8 colors sets. Ideally also a slider to define the exact level range you want the sliders to move within.
It would be so much easier than having to mix RGB sliders to reach the exact hue you want. I don't see why that can't be a good workflow.

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bitman wrote on 6/30/2024, 10:52 AM

I am also not a great fan of color wheels, probably it is just my age...

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lan-mLMC wrote on 6/30/2024, 10:53 AM

Not really, as their design is completely different. I'd like them do offer the chosen / respective hue's saturation and luma. There could then be one set for each color you pick, preferably like at least 8 colors sets. Ideally also a slider to define the exact level range you want the sliders to move within.
It would be so much easier than having to mix RGB sliders to reach the exact hue you want. I don't see why that can't be a good workflow.

Have you checked Graide Color Curve? I think it is very close to your needs.

Mindmatter wrote on 6/30/2024, 2:56 PM

Thanks @lan-mLMC. I watched the clip, I don't like curves either. 😁 Just gimme sliders...

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RogerS wrote on 7/1/2024, 12:31 AM

Curves are way more precise/ advanced once you get used to them. I also use Graide and the CGP as well as similar tools in Resolve.

For what you want ColorFast 2 is fine, maybe even the free AAV Color Lab: https://aav-colorlab-32-bit.software.informer.com/

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 7/2/2024, 5:20 AM

@lan-mLMC Graide Color Curves is something entirely different.

@Mindmatter Colorfast 2 then would be the best option for you. It is an excellent alternative that ticks all the boxes for what you are looking for.

 

Mindmatter wrote on 7/2/2024, 12:56 PM

as I mentioned, I have colorfast 2 and also use the saturation EQ by BCC. Cf 2 has its great tools but is not the same thing as say the Lightroom design.

I really would like a slider UI designed the way I described in my answer above.

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RogerS wrote on 7/2/2024, 6:56 PM

I think spend time to learn the Vegas color graph approach and you might appreciate it more. The implementation in Graide is a little better as you can easily make selections of multiple points.

I also come from a photo correction background and wish I could port some of the VEGAS tools back over to Lightroom!