Vegas crashes when importing multiple video files to timeline

RogerS wrote on 4/21/2024, 8:37 PM

Are all the media the same? My guess is that there are some unsupported files in there causing trouble.

You could try MediaInfo on a few samples and report back what the files are.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

If you look at this folder in the VEGAS explorer does it work? If it crashes there it's definitely an issue with one or more of the files.

In general importing large amounts of media should work.

David-Koci wrote on 4/21/2024, 9:13 PM

I am able to use Vegas Explorer to open the folder containing the files. It will even allow me to add the files into "project media" tab.

As for MediaInfo, I did a report on one of the files. All the files in the folder were recorded with the same camera and settings.

The one I picked is a very small file, not sure if this is causing problems for Vegas. In my other video editor it would detect video files that were too short (< 1 sec or 8MB in size) and not import them. These files would occur when I started to record but stopped the camera immediately. They are scattered throughout the folder and I don't want to manaully delete these 8 MB files, wondering if Vegas is trying to import these files instead of dropping them and since it does not produce an error its fighting to figure out how to handle them.

Format : XAVC
Codec ID : XAVC (XAVC/mp42/iso2)
File size : 8.00 MiB
Duration : 505 ms
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 133 Mb/s
Frame rate : 29.970 FPS
Encoded date : 2024-04-05 11:22:15 UTC
Tagged date : 2024-04-05 11:22:15 UTC

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 2 frames
Format settings, Slice count : 8 slices per frame
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 501 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 111 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate : 100.0 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.446
Stream size : 6.62 MiB (83%)
Encoded date : 2024-04-05 11:22:15 UTC
Tagged date : 2024-04-05 11:22:15 UTC
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : xvYCC
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Metas : 3
Codec configuration box : avcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : PCM
Format settings : Big / Signed
Codec ID : twos
Duration : 505 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 94.7 KiB (1%)
Encoded date : 2024-04-05 11:22:15 UTC
Tagged date : 2024-04-05 11:22:15 UTC

Other
ID : 3
Type : meta
Format : Sony Real Time Metadata
Codec ID : rtmd
Duration : 501 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Time code of first frame : 18:23:10;07
Encoded date : 2024-04-05 11:22:15 UTC
Tagged date : 2024-04-05 11:22:15 UTC
TransferCharacteristics_FirstFrame : xvYCC
ColorPrimaries_FirstFrame : BT.709
MatrixCoefficients_FirstFrame : BT.709
IrisFNumber_FirstFrame : 4.000000
FocusPositionFromImagePlane_FirstFrame : 3.620 m
AutoExposureMode_FirstFrame : Manual
AutoFocusSensingAreaSetting_FirstFrame : Center Sensitive Auto
ShutterSpeed_Time_FirstFrame : 1/60 s
CameraMasterGainAdjustment_FirstFrame : 15.00 dB
ISOSensitivity_FirstFrame : 500
ElectricalExtenderMagnification_FirstFra : 100%
AutoWhiteBalanceMode_FirstFrame : Automatic
ExposureIndexofPhotoMeter_FirstFrame : 500

RogerS wrote on 4/21/2024, 9:19 PM

I don't see an issue with the media though it is very short.

What if you just go in Windows Explorer, sort by file size and move these baby videos to a subfolder as they aren't editable anyway?

john_dennis wrote on 4/21/2024, 11:26 PM

@David-Koci

I happen to have Vegas Pro 21-208 on the machine at the moment and here is how the machine in my signature handles 120 (>9.5 hours) of my favorite sports files.

General
Complete name                            : E:\2024-03-16 Soccer\2024-03-16-005.MP4
Format                                   : XAVC
Codec ID                                 : XAVC (XAVC/mp42/iso2)
File size                                : 5.97 GiB
Duration                                 : 8 min 46 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 97.5 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS
Encoded date                             : 2024-03-16 17:29:06 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-03-16 17:29:06 UTC

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Format settings, Slice count             : 8 slices per frame
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 8 min 46 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 95.7 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 100.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.385
Stream size                              : 5.86 GiB (98%)
Encoded date                             : 2024-03-16 17:29:06 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-03-16 17:29:06 UTC
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Metas                                    : 3
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Big / Signed
Codec ID                                 : twos
Duration                                 : 8 min 46 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 96.3 MiB (2%)
Encoded date                             : 2024-03-16 17:29:06 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-03-16 17:29:06 UTC

Other
ID                                       : 3
Type                                     : meta
Format                                   : Sony Real Time Metadata
Codec ID                                 : rtmd
Duration                                 : 8 min 46 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Time code of first frame                 : 00:33:09;00
Encoded date                             : 2024-03-16 17:29:06 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-03-16 17:29:06 UTC
TransferCharacteristics_FirstFrame       : CINE2 of EX1/EX3
ColorPrimaries_FirstFrame                : BT.709
MatrixCoefficients_FirstFrame            : BT.709
IrisFNumber_FirstFrame                   : 8.000000
AutoExposureMode_FirstFrame              : Manual
AutoFocusSensingAreaSetting_FirstFrame   : Center Sensitive Auto
ShutterSpeed_Time_FirstFrame             : 1/125 s
CameraMasterGainAdjustment_FirstFrame    : 9.00 dB
ISOSensitivity_FirstFrame                : 320
ElectricalExtenderMagnification_FirstFra : 100%
AutoWhiteBalanceMode_FirstFrame          : Automatic
ExposureIndexofPhotoMeter_FirstFrame     : 320

David-Koci wrote on 4/22/2024, 6:29 AM

That is how I was expecting Vegas to behave when handling a large number of video files, but that is not the experience I am seeing on build 300. Will get a video capture of what I am seeing.

I even removed the small files that were less than 1 second in length and that did not fix the problem, seemed to get a little further but end result was a non responsive Vegas.

j-v wrote on 4/22/2024, 7:20 AM

@David-Koci
Can you show here your
- settings at Options/PreferencesVideo
- settings at Options/Preferences/File I/O
- result of Help/Check for Driver updates
by using this forum upload button above this message?

john_dennis wrote on 4/22/2024, 9:57 AM

I got the same result with 147 files in Vegas Pro 21-300.

David-Koci wrote on 4/22/2024, 1:38 PM

Damn, I didn't think the solution was that simple

J-V, you were right in having me check my driver for updates. Sure enough after updating the video card drivers the problem seems to have disappeared. No issue loading files onto the timeline, regardless of the number of files.

Thanks to everyone for chipping in.

j-v wrote on 4/22/2024, 2:17 PM

😊Glad I could tip you