Vegas Crashing Non-Stop During Encode to Various Formats

fr0sty wrote on 1/25/2017, 7:28 PM

I'm having a hell of a time with this project. Someone who shot some football games in standard def gave me a bunch of files that they needed to be burned to dvd. These files were recorded at 720p (I guess a feed out of his switcher that he ran into a capture device), with black bars on the left and right side of the 480i/p image. So, I'm setting my project settings at NTSC DV 30p, using the track motion/resize tool to zoom the image full screen again, and I've tried rendering to MPEG 2 so it's ready for DVD, but it crashes. I tried MPEG4, it too crashes. The only thing I've had any success with is NTSC DV (the idea being to get the clips i've edited for time into DVD architect and let it do the final encoding), but even it crashes Vegas sometimes or will just stop encoding right in the middle (though vegas acts like nothing is wrong, even says a background process is still going on if you try to cancel).

Vegas doesn't seem to like doing anything standard def anymore! Any ideas what could be going on?

I've been disabling resample, but have also tried with smart resample enabled and still get crashes.

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fr0sty wrote on 1/25/2017, 7:32 PM

Also... Magix, please set DVD architect up in a way that it can open Vegas projects directly, so you do not have to render anything to send to it. Or is there a way to do that?

xberk wrote on 1/25/2017, 7:36 PM

Could be codec related. Obviously Vegas does not like the media you are using. Have you tried converting it in Handbrake or something else?

fr0sty wrote on 1/25/2017, 7:38 PM

i'll give it a shot

TheHappyFriar wrote on 1/25/2017, 8:13 PM

Try rendering straight out w/o anything done to the video. If that works then you know it's not the video, something else.

xberk wrote on 1/25/2017, 9:22 PM

>>Magix, please set DVD architect up in a way that it can open Vegas projects directly

You can burn a DVD from the Vegas Timeline without using DVD Architect .. use Tools/Burn Disc .. this may not work any better if Vegas has problems with the media.

NickHope wrote on 1/25/2017, 10:19 PM

Some things to try in this post (and the one it links to in part 1): https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-stop-vegas-pro-hanging-during-rendering--104786/

fr0sty wrote on 1/25/2017, 10:22 PM

>>Magix, please set DVD architect up in a way that it can open Vegas projects directly

You can burn a DVD from the Vegas Timeline without using DVD Architect .. use Tools/Burn Disc .. this may not work any better if Vegas has problems with the media.

It would still be awesome to be able to specify a region on the vegas timeline, select "send to DVD architect", and DVDA open it as if it were a video file, let me put my chapters in (or read them from the vegas timeline), build my menus, and have DVDA render the video right from the vegas timeline when I click "burn disc". The burn from timeline option doesn't support menus, etc. It would be better than having to choose from a very limited number of render templates that DVDA will accept without re-encoding the video anyway, it would enable more customization of bitrate and such, especially for Blu-Ray discs. If I export from Vegas, it's either the 16mbps Sony AVC template, the 25mbps Main Concept template, or DVDA forces me to re-encode, even if I just tweak the bitrate a little.

I also seem to notice better results if I use DVDA's encoder on DVDs downsampled from HD.

john_dennis wrote on 1/26/2017, 2:38 AM

@Fr0sty

"Also... Magix, please set DVD architect up in a way that it can open Vegas projects directly, so you do not have to render anything to send to it. Or is there a way to do that?"

Full Disclosure: I have absolutely zero interest in doing what you describe or having Magix expend any effort on it. But!

You could create a workflow to allow you to work in DVD Architect without the long renders in Vegas Pro.

The 28,000 ft. overview.

When finished editing in Vegas Pro, render a Dolby Digital AC3 file including markers which become chapter points.

Set DVD Architect Internal setting Media Markers in Video File to FALSE. Restart DVD Architect.

Render the Vegas Pro timeline to a Debugmode Frameserver .avi file.

Open the Debugmode Frameserver .avi file in DVD Architect.

Replace the Debugmode Frameserver file audio with the previously rendered AC3 file and strike the Load Markers button.

Use multiple Vegas Pro sessions for DVDs with more than one title.

Only the video will be rendered in the process of Preparing the DVD or Blu-ray.

That's my Rube Goldberg Kludge of the Week. In fact, I may not do another kludge like this for the rest of the year.

TheHappyFriar wrote on 1/26/2017, 7:53 AM

Not sure if any DVDA updates since the ones on SCS's site, but DVDA doesn't render as fast as Vegas. You could spend ~2-4x longer rendering in DVDA vs Vegas & get the same result.

michael-francis wrote on 1/26/2017, 9:39 AM

If you have VEGAS 13 and are looking to upgrade to 14. You may not want to wast your money if you do long video. I can render fine on Vegas13 for a 2 hr meeting.......but Vegas 14 is Crashing every time so I have to use Vegas 13. Same computer I have Vegas 13 and Vegas 14. problems with Vegas 14 Vegas 13 is solid. Why did they brake it???????

NickHope wrote on 1/26/2017, 11:34 AM

If you have VEGAS 13 and are looking to upgrade to 14. You may not want to wast your money if you do long video. I can render fine on Vegas13 for a 2 hr meeting.......but Vegas 14 is Crashing every time so I have to use Vegas 13. Same computer I have Vegas 13 and Vegas 14. problems with Vegas 14 Vegas 13 is solid. Why did they brake it???????

If VP13 is OK and VP14 is not, it sounds like it may be an issue with your particular installation, as VP14 is generally now as robust as VP13 was in terms of crashing. Troubleshoot here: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-troubleshooting-crashing-and-stability--104785/ If it's still crashing for you after that then please submit a support request so the developers can fix the issue.