I'm sorry but I've not seen this. Vegas is the most stable program I've ever used (and I came from EditDV too.)

Anything else happening while this occurs? I've only seen Vegas come close to behaving like this when some other activity started beating the hard drive on my laptop (I believe it was file indexing which I turned off). In this case, I believe it was not able to read the hard drive and, basically, locked up waiting - I gave up first and rebooted. Is your hard drive light on solid when you see this?

He sounds like a "ringer" to me: someone posting stuff to discredit Vegas. Perhaps a newbie at computers?

I have had the same thing happen a few times, but usually its when I have something else going on besides vegas. If people built a computer just for video and ran vegas on it, I doubt vegas would ever have a hiccup. But nooooo.... I want to have 5 webrowsers open and a file search going while I edit. so yeah sometimes it gets stuck.

::: He sounds like a "ringer" to me:


Let me go out on a limb and say that sounds WAY unfair; you only need to click on the ID to see the numerous postings. I come from the Pinnacle Studio boards where it definitely has that from time to time, and you can always tell because it's the user's first post. That doesn't seem to be the case here.

David

So-called "bugs" in applications generally effect EVERYBODY or at least everybody with the same hardware, OS configuration you have and can be duplicated. Example, you do A,B, C, anyone doing A, B, C should see the same result you are. If not, probably something you're doing or with you install or some conflict.

I don't see anyone else PO'ed, do you?

Before screaming its the software, check your system. What you're reporting is an all too frequent sign of bad video drivers, overheating, IRQ conflicts.

finally! an user with problems! Vegas is not perfect. Thanks to god :-))))

Ok Zippy,

What hardware are you running?

JBJones

Zippy, did you try holding control and then hitting space? It sounds like you lost focus of the timeline. New glasses not required. :) I had this happen to me twice.. The reason was because I was saving my project while playing back. I waited 5 minutes before my computer let me have control again.

Oh, running things in the background with Vegas shouldn't be a problem. Recently, I've had the folowing programs open (not just resident in memory like Mcafee) while runing Vegas:

3 Netscape windows
Netscape Mail
Vegas
2 IE Windows open
Battle Craft 1942 (the Battlefield 1942 3d editor)
Particle Illusion 2 SE

I also have Mcafee in the background.

Vegas has crashed for me a total of 5 times since I started using it with 4.0beta. 4 of the 5 times were when I was using Virtualdub plugins in my project, and the 5th was when I tried to render an mpeg file while it was open in media player. :)


Vegas = Fort Knox

I've had this sort of thing happen while I was using VV.
I phrased that statement carefully because I've also had it happening on the same PC while I was suing other apps too.
Not surprisingly its also stopped happening on the same machine once I reinstalled Windows and got rid of so much junk.
Computer programs are self contained any more, almost everything is based on objects, these merrily send messages to each other, somtimes the messages just don't get there or the object they are being sent to is too busy to respond. There's lots of reasons it can happen and more often than not it's not the fault of the app that seems to be playing up.

The big problem I see happening is VV is cheap, people buy it and install it just like they would a word processor. Nine times out of ten they don't have a problem but there's an awefull lot of potential for the wheels to fall off. From now on I'm just keeping one machine for VV and a few other related apps that I use with it.

I have been using Vegas for over a year. I can not make it falter. The only problem I've had with Vegas was that it previewed MPEG files with some hesitations. I finally found that I didn't have DMA transfer checked on my drives and that cured the problem. If you are having a problem with Vegas, it is a bad installation, or something else running on your machine. I run Vegas on Win 98, on an Athalon 1000, with anti virus, Zone Alarm, and internet and I have never had a problem. I would strongly suggest that you disable other programs and run Vegas alone. If you still have problems reinstall Vegas. Also get the latest version from Sofo website.

When I'm running Vegas 4.0d there is nothing else running.

My system is newly built.

Antec Sonata Case
MSI K7N2G-ILSR
AMD 2100+ Revision "B"
(OC 13x165; Reads as AMD 2700+)
Vantec Aeroflow
Seagate 80 Gig 7200 RPM Barracuda V
160GIG Maxtor 7200 RPM ATA133 (for media only)
512MB RAM Kingston Hyper X PC3000 (2x256)
Antec True 380 Watt
Windows XP Professional

Hmmm, so you're overclocking, eh? That would be my prime suspect for the cause of your problems. Clock it back to its official speed and see if that cures your problems.

Scott.

Scott - word to this novice please - from the info, how do you know the setup stated is overclocked?

Grazie

Grazie,

This bit of Zippy's post ...

>(OC 13x165; Reads as AMD 2700+)

... gives the game away.

Scott

Ah Hah!! - Thanks Scott! - Much obliged . . .now back to this fascinationg thread - Lah De dah! "Vegas is starting to suck . . ." coooo aint found this function? Oh er missus . . .

Regards,

Grazie

I'd also question the assertion of 'nothing else running'
Even if you go into system manager and see VV as the only application running what really needs to be checked out are the processes running.
Thats no easy matter to deal with, just before I reloaded everything on my system I did a bit of delving into what was being started to try to explain why it was taking forever to shutdown.
There was quite a lot that was from applications which I had long ago uninstalled including bits from Pinnacle. There are ways to work backwards to find out how every process was started but its not for the faint hearted.
uStuff suggest a third party tool to do it, I've done it only out of necessity to remove a lock on a database on a remote system.
The other comment someone made about checking what has focus is very relevant, maybe not in this case but still something I've had to watch since buying a shuttlepro. It works a treat but if I use the mouse to do something else I've got to remember to get the focus back to the timeline otherwise the shuttle can do some odd things like winding down a tracks opacity settings.

I've even managed to do that using the arrow keys thinking I was stepping frame by frame, realised it wasn't working, clicked on the timeline and didn't notice I'd set opacity to 99%!

So if I was a lot younger and a lot less wiser you would have seen another post here along the lines of "VV sucks, it takes too long to long to render".

If he's oc'ing his cpu, there's a chance he's doing the same to his graphics card, which he didn't even list.

Since you're using XP, look in the Event logs and see if Windows is reporting anything. Even if nothing else is "running", (he thinks) look in Task Manager, processes tab and be prepared to be shocked how much is running with "nothing" running. Your specs show a IDE 133 drive. Does your MB support it directly, if not did you use the required IDE controller card? Did you use a 80 wire connector?

You are overclocking? OK, then drop back to regular speed and see if your problem goes away. Even I get system hangs if I push it too far.

Have you checked your RAM?

The point is before you go yelling Vegas or ANY software is junk check your hardware and duh... suspect Windows, now that IS junk.

suspect Windows, now that IS junk.

There you go again Billy, biting the hand that feeds you. I have seven machines, all running Win2k, and none of them EVER crash. I turn them on and I get my work done. It couldn't be much easier.

Once again, I have to ask the question; If you hate Windows so much, why are you using it?

As far as Zippy's problem is concerned, I would definitely suspect the overclocking as being the cause.

John

Before i would say Vegas sucks I would take a real look at your motherboard
Cheap board and overclocking = crash and burn. are you using the onboard
graphics, if so that may also be an issue. But as others have said, turn back the clock and see what happens.

I don't think it's VV thats starting to suck.. actually I KNOW it's not. There has to be a problem with your installation or system. I have been using VV for almost 6 months now on an XP system, and have NEVER had a crash. The only bug I've ever noticed is sometimes imported media won't appear in the folders.. easy work around, so I don't even consider it an issue.
My question is, if it was Veags that was the issue, why is it so popular, and why aren't there more posts reporting the same issue? Instead of blaming VV, post to the forum asking if anyone has had similar problems, and what they did to correct them.

John... pick up a newspaper or turn on the TV sometime.

The current worms and virus making the rounds are the result of WINDOWS being easy to attack. Considering that Windows has now been around in one form on another since the 80's and that Billy Gates is the richest guy on the planet and Microsoft is swimming in a ocean of cash, you would think they would fix the glaring security holes, many of which they have been aware of for years. But they don't.

I could say there YOU go again. How many times have you been critical of what I said now? Five times, ten, twenty?

Those of us that know Windows better than someone simply turning on his computer and running seven machines (snicker) knows Windows is riddled with security holes. Many that should have never been there in the first place and should have and could have been closed by now and they haven't been. Even the worm has a line in its code suggesting the same thing. Microsoft, Windows is broke, why don't you fix it?

As far as why I use Windows, the same reason hundreds of millions of others do... because I have a large investment in software that requires Windows to run. There is no other reason. Trust me... if ever someone comes up with a OS that runs Windows software you'll see tens of millions kicking Windows off their computers overnight.

And John, maybe once you could actually try to HELP somebody instead of looking for another excuse to comment on what I've said.