Vegas is starting to suck in my opinion! BUGGY!

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sdmoore wrote on 8/26/2003, 6:40 PM
nopdb.exe is Norton Speed Disk (actually from Symantec) - I'd definitely look at setting this to run manually rather than automatically as it appears to be at the moment.

Check out nopdb mentioned here (you'll have to scroll down a bit) http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist_n.htm

Scott

PS. Is it only the preview that you're having problems with? I.e. You can render to .avi or whatever without any problems?
sdmoore wrote on 8/26/2003, 6:42 PM
Hang in there Zippy - we'll get to the bottom of it 8o)
smhontz wrote on 8/26/2003, 6:51 PM
You've got a whole lot of Norton stuff running on your computer - NAVAPW32, IAMAPP, NAVAPSVC, NISUM, NPROTECT, NOPDB, NISSERV, SYMPROXYSVC. IMHO, get rid of it. The Norton stuff is probably what's bogging the computer down. I tried both McAffee and Norton and both of them were pigs. Now I use Panda AV and Sygate Firewall and things run much smoother.
ZippyGaloo wrote on 8/26/2003, 7:29 PM
What do you suggest I get rid of? Why? And how? Also, does "getting rid of them" in any way make my computer vulnerable?
ZippyGaloo wrote on 8/26/2003, 7:38 PM
I think I might be getting closer. When the video (with effects; in this case title effects) isn't pre-rendered I have the problem. If I prerender the video the problem seems to go away (I get control of my mouse). But if I forget to pre-render and accidently view the video I experience the problem. Any suggestions?
BillyBoy wrote on 8/26/2003, 7:46 PM
Well Zippy, part of getting help is first helping us help you. You got a whole laundy list of stuff there. If you don't know what the application is then one way to find out is enter the name in Windows search under 'all files and folders'' one at a time. When the file comes up, right click under properties it will give you the information. Of course you could just reboot, then only have Vegas running then look in Task Manager and see what else is running which then would only be necessary internal functions or applications that start up automatically like all that Norton junk you got.

It is normal to have multiple instances of svhost and other internal Window things like System Idle Process. The order they are listed in doesn't matter. What you want to look at is the colum that shows how much resources each is eating up. A few here don't like me to be critical of Windows, so sorry, I'm going to leave you in the dark as to what svhost does and why system Idle process may be at least some of the problem.

What's slowly coming out as you reveal more is it is less likely a Vegas problem. You got a lot of stuff running, some of it known problem childs. You need to get to a simpler boot if all the junk you listed starts at boot.

Look into msconfig and or Tweak both of which can help you better manage what application start and how they are configured and if or not they run automatically at boot.

The first's help file should by default be in your Windows help section C:\Windows\Help and the application itself also in the Windows folder. I took mine out a long time ago, so don't recall exactly which Windows folder, again you should be able to find it using Windows search. Read the help file first.

Tweak is kind of an easy to use geek tool kit you can get at the Microsoft site. Its a bunch of little tools and utilities that makes it easy to change settings, override system defaults, etc., written by the team of Microsoft software engineers on the Windows Team that didn't make it into the official release of Windows. Because of that it isn't supported by Microsoft, but it can be very useful and its free.

smhontz wrote on 8/26/2003, 8:38 PM
I would suggest you disconnect your computer from the Internet and any other network it might be attached to. Then, disable all the Norton stuff (I'm not sure where, but there must be a setup somewhere) and reboot the computer. Make sure all the Norton items listed in your previous Task list are NOT running, and try your test again.

Yes, your computer will be vulnerable. That's why you take it off the network.

If that fixes things, then you know it's Norton or McAffee or whatever. Then, you go get yourself something like Panda AV and Sygate firewall or any of the other products that people recommend for systems that will be doing video editing. You uninstall Norton and put in the other product. (You may have to re-enable the Norton stuff so your computer is protected whilst you troll the Internet looking for other solutions...)

Do not connect your computer to the Internet unless you are running an antivirus and a firewall.

Like I said, I kinda went down the same road as you ... had Norton because it came on my computer ... but turned out it didn't play nice with resource-intensive apps (like video editting) because it was hogging too much processor time...
ZippyGaloo wrote on 8/26/2003, 9:14 PM
It's licensed. What is a cracked version? How is it different? Is a cracked version better?
DataMeister wrote on 8/26/2003, 9:24 PM
Another thing to look at.

In your preview window between the buttons for "Split Screen View" and "Overlays" you should see a drop down for for preview quality. The options are...

Draft (Auto)
Draft (Full)
Preview (Auto)
Preview (Full)
Good (Auto)
Good (Full)
Best (Auto)
Best (Full)

Any of these could be the text that is showing on the button.

Mine is set to "Preview (Auto)". What is yours set to and what resolution is your preview using? That information is listed below the preview in the field called "Display".


JBJones
theigloo wrote on 8/26/2003, 10:02 PM

Do this:

START > RUN.

Type "msconfig".

Go to the startup Tab.

Hit the "Disable All" button.

Restart.

The machine will come up with the bare minimum of services and processes. It's great.

It sounds to me like your machine is a mutt. Random PC makers put all kinds of crappy parts together and sometimes they don't work. I know I'll take cr@p for this but here it goes: stay away from AMD. AMD chips are not reliable. You want me to source that? I can't. Personal experience. I lost a dual proc AMD box because it got hot in my appartment. I've been a Xeon guy ever since.

I guarantee Vegas will work for you on a Dell.
DataMeister wrote on 8/26/2003, 10:18 PM
It definitely seems like AMD has more reported problems with freaky systems that the Intel side does. But, I'm starting to wonder if maybe it is because AMD doesn't put as stringent requirements on the motherboard makers. Or perhaps being a budget CPU it draws a lot more budget motherboards which turn out to be crap. Or perhaps the documentation isn't as good as the Intel documentation for the chipset or motherboard designers.

I'm not sure it is the actual AMD processor design that is crap because there are plenty of people who have very solid AMD systems. Like mine for instance. My motherboard is an ASUS A7N8X Deluxe which uses the nVidia nForce2 chipset. It runs very well.

JBJones
ZippyGaloo wrote on 8/26/2003, 10:29 PM
My system is great. I hand built it myself with carefully selected parts within my price point. It's worked flasslessly with everything else.
BillyBoy wrote on 8/26/2003, 11:06 PM
How many OTHER video editing application you using?

Video editing can be an intensive task. One that may reveal problems with your system you otherwise may never be aware of.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 8/27/2003, 8:20 AM
Some people say a cracked version is better. Normaly though, if it flaunts itself around enough the cops come arrest it for pocession of said crack. Then you loose the crack and you computer. :)
TheHappyFriar wrote on 8/27/2003, 9:14 AM
I agree. I have an Asus A7V8X-X and it's gotten up to 90f in my house this summer and have had no problems. The motherboard makes all the difference (goto http://www.motherboards.org for reviews of motherboards. Stability is a key factor).
TheHappyFriar wrote on 8/27/2003, 9:19 AM
What's your computer hardware?
CPU?
MB?
Sound?
Memory?
Video?


That should help determine he problem too. Some drivers hanve comflicts, and some MB's just run crappy. I've found cheaper MB companies run crapier (not cheaper mb's, but cheaper companies).

pjam wrote on 8/27/2003, 11:12 AM
I'd recommend making sure you have the latest bios for your motherboard installed, I just did that and it ironed out a hold load of small problems in one go (not all relative to Vegas by the way). Vegas is really fine and solid and in my experience all problems have come from my own setup. You really have to put the work in and eliminate one by one.
There is also some useful advice on how to tweak your system for NLE on the Videoguys site www.videoguys.com