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Marco. wrote on 1/9/2020, 5:50 PM

"Can someone(s) please explain how to get VP 17 effect to stay when I go to Effects?"

Not possible because VEGAS Effects would always link the original source file in its own project (together with its in/out meta data).

That's why you can't send Vegas Pro Generated Media to Effect. Vegas Pro reads the Effect project file, but Effect does not read the Vegas Pro project file.

VidGuy069 wrote on 1/9/2020, 6:20 PM

How rude, of Effects that is. So I need to do VEGAS Effects FIRST, THEN do VP effects when done? If that's the case, then fine. As long as the process is repeatable and successful can live with that.

Marco. wrote on 1/9/2020, 6:29 PM

"So I need to do VEGAS Effects FIRST, THEN do VP effects when done?"

Yes, that's the recommended workflow. You can do your straight cuts/trimmings in Vegas Pro and then the files should be send to Effect first before you'd continue editing in Vegas Pro.

VidGuy069 wrote on 1/9/2020, 7:24 PM

Ho Hum. Thank you.
Fix in next update? 😁 If I purchase full version of Ignite Pro, Will I get the extra Effects into VEGAS?

Marco. wrote on 1/9/2020, 7:40 PM

"Fix in next update?"

Don't know. It's not a bug, nothing broken, it's by design.

"If I purchase full version of Ignite Pro, Will I get the extra Effects into VEGAS?"

My Ignite Pro FX do not appear in VEGAS Effect, while they appear in Vegas Pro. Also, on the HitFilm web page VEGAS Effect is not listed to be supported by Ignite Pro. So I'd guess the answer is: No. Just like it is not supported within HitFilm.

But what FX does Ignite Pro offer which are not included in VEGAS Effect? It's same like using Ignite Pro in HitFilm Pro. Ignite is kind of a (slightly limited) plug-in-set-version of HitFilm. Either you use HitFilm/Effect or Ignite, but not Ignite within HitFilm/Effect.

VidGuy069 wrote on 1/9/2020, 8:24 PM

I thought it was like Ignite is to Hitfilm as After Effects is to Premier Pro. HitFilm (whos' bottom-up timeline I despise) is the sequencer, and ignite is where most of the work happens.

"But what FX does Ignite Pro offer which are not included in VEGAS Effect?" A version of Mocha tracking. However that might be HitFilm and not ignite. O
Oh well, back to to comparison testing.

Marco. wrote on 1/9/2020, 8:32 PM

Ignite is the essence of the HitFilm integrated FX, build into an OFX plug-in. So using Ignite in VEGAS Effect (or in HitFilm) is like using (the FX of) VEGAS Effect in VEGAS Effect.

lan-mLMC wrote on 1/9/2020, 9:12 PM

Ignite pro comes frome VEGAS Effects. If VEGAS Effects add ignite pro again there will be all repetitive FXs in VEGAS Effects. This is unnecessary.

VidGuy069 wrote on 1/10/2020, 5:19 PM

Still trying to decide to stay with VEGAS or jump to hitfilm.. If the powers that be could get Boris FX and newblue to work with Post, staying would be a no brainer.
Oh well. back to the research, comparing, and testing. Forced retirement has A perk.

lan-mLMC wrote on 1/10/2020, 7:08 PM

Still trying to decide to stay with VEGAS or jump to hitfilm.. If the powers that be could get Boris FX and newblue to work with Post, staying would be a no brainer.
Oh well. back to the research, comparing, and testing. Forced retirement has A perk.

Hitfilm Pro feature ($349) ≈ Editing feature like VEGAS Pro + Compositing VFX feature more than VEGAS Effects + 870 VFX filters more than Ignite Pro + Integrated Mocha Hitfilm + Integrated Foundry camera tracker + Integrated Boris Continuum 3D objects + some AE plugin support feature such as VideoCopilot.

Marco. wrote on 1/11/2020, 5:21 AM

These comment seems like HitFilm Pro would offer more than Vegas Pro – which is not the case.

While both tools share a certain intersection, at the same time both tools differ a lot and aren't comparable, e.g. HitFilm lacks almost every needed broadcast standard, offers very basic audio editing features only and its whole workflow is compositing focused with a basic set of editing features whereas the VP workflow is editing focused with a basis set of compositing features.
Also keep in mind Vegas Pro 17 Edit is $ 299 only.

lan-mLMC wrote on 1/11/2020, 8:11 AM

Also keep in mind Vegas Pro 17 Edit is $ 299 only.

It seems that VEGAS Pro 17 Edit Regularly $399.00.

BUY NOW $299.00, $100 discount Valid until January 15, 2020.

Marco. wrote on 1/11/2020, 9:28 AM

Then hurry up. 😄

fred-w wrote on 1/12/2020, 2:43 AM

They had Hitfilm Pro at Humble Bundle up until a couple of weeks ago, I tried to alert people here, for $30 US. One can still get the Hitfilm Express (free, cut-down version) and add modules like Mocha for $50, and other modules cheaper as need, like skin touch up for $20, as I recall. Or get Vegas Post, even as a subscription (not a bad way to go, actually).

VidGuy069 wrote on 1/12/2020, 9:27 AM

Humble is how I got hitfilm. Severely annoyed Boris AND Newblue don't work with post Will probably keep hitfilm specifically for VFX and drop post part, but keep VEGAS for the editing. At least until the Boris, Newblue issue is settled.

fred-w wrote on 1/12/2020, 1:32 PM

@VidGuy069 Great, Vegas is the editor and Hitfilm for more dedicated compositing thing. Like Premiere and After Effects, better if Mocha integration is important to you, as I think Hitfilm might have the tighter integration there. That is the combo. Post, without Mocha, doesn't really deliver the value, AFAICT, but I could be persuaded otherwise if the integration idea is actually a thing and not just a PR sales bit, which is what it seems to be, but again, prove me wrong, I'll gladly accept a correction on that idea. If someone does, please actually have spent time living with the two programs, don't just echo the company spiel.

 

Marco. wrote on 1/12/2020, 1:58 PM

At this point I'm not aware of a total different integration between HitFilm and Vegas Pro or Vegas Effect and Vegas Pro, except there is an Event button to send a clip from Vegas Pro to Vegas Post where else you would use the context menu to send a clip from Vegas Pro to HitFilm.
In both cases (using Vegas Effect or HitFilm with Vegas Pro) you don't need to render your compositing before you can use it in Vegas Pro. You just have to save the Vegas Effect or HitFilm project and after that your Take in the Vegas Pro timeline will be updated automatically.