Vegas Pro 15 + NeatVideo 4.7 as Media FX/Event FX -- no frames

fifonik wrote on 3/9/2018, 4:55 PM

In VP15 (build 311, have not checked in previous builds) when NeatVideo plugin applied as Media FX or as Event FX before Pan/Crop there are no frames displayed in NeatVideo profile configuration page (marked with red rectangle on the attached screenshot).

If NeatVideo applied as Track FX, Output FX or as Event FX after Pan/Crop -- everything works as expected.

In VP13 there is no such issue and frames displayed in all cases.

 

Is it Vegas or NeatVideo bug?

Thanks.

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Camcorder: Panasonic X920

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X (not OC), RAM: G'Skill 16 GB DDR4@3200 (not OC), Graphics card: MSI RX580 8GB (factory OC), SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ NVMe 500MB (OS), HDDs: Seagate & Toshiba 2TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 1909

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17

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Grazie wrote on 3/11/2018, 12:43 AM

@fifonik : Repro-ed.

Hmm... I'm running W7 and NV4.6 on VP15 Build321. So it is a consistent error over the two OS and with different NV releases. In which case we have convergence, and indicates a BUG.

Is it possible that the Cache requirement for Prior to Pan/Crop hasn't been updated either by NV and/or MAGIX? But yes, this isn't how I'd expect it to behave compared to VP13.

Very odd behaviour indeed.

Good catch!

fifonik wrote on 3/11/2018, 1:26 AM

@Grazie thanks for checking.

I've reported this into NeatVideo forum as well.

However, as there is no the issue in VP13, I think this a VP15 bug (I do not have VP14 to check).

Camcorder: Panasonic X920

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X (not OC), RAM: G'Skill 16 GB DDR4@3200 (not OC), Graphics card: MSI RX580 8GB (factory OC), SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ NVMe 500MB (OS), HDDs: Seagate & Toshiba 2TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 1909

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17

Grazie wrote on 3/11/2018, 3:56 AM
However, as there is no the issue in VP13, I think this a VP15 bug (I do not have VP14 to check).

@fifonik : I have VP14 - re-proed too. I'd think this is kinda serious? Unexpected behaviour points to some breakdown in communications.

@fifonik : I'll nip over to VLAD's Pad ! 😎

Grazie wrote on 3/11/2018, 4:06 AM

Done!

Grazie wrote on 3/16/2018, 7:03 AM

Vlad has responded. NV have reproed the issue.

fifonik wrote on 3/16/2018, 9:41 PM

Reported to Magix, Ticket#2018031717000854

Camcorder: Panasonic X920

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X (not OC), RAM: G'Skill 16 GB DDR4@3200 (not OC), Graphics card: MSI RX580 8GB (factory OC), SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ NVMe 500MB (OS), HDDs: Seagate & Toshiba 2TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 1909

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17

NickHope wrote on 3/29/2018, 3:38 AM

Does the GPU acceleration of video processing setting have any effect on this?

fifonik wrote on 3/29/2018, 5:32 AM

Nope.

Disabling GPU in VP15 Preferences does not resolve the issue.

I do not have VP14 to check.

In VP13 the GPU is enabled with no the NeatVideo issue.

P.S. I'm afraid that the issue not only cosmetic. NeatVideo could have bigger problems as it might not have access to next/prev frames and so the Temporal filtering does not work as expected.

 

UPDATE:

NeatVideo developers confirmed that this is the only "cosmetic" issue and internal processing is not affected.

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Camcorder: Panasonic X920

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X (not OC), RAM: G'Skill 16 GB DDR4@3200 (not OC), Graphics card: MSI RX580 8GB (factory OC), SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ NVMe 500MB (OS), HDDs: Seagate & Toshiba 2TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 1909

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17

matthias-krutz wrote on 3/29/2018, 6:25 AM

The error also occurs in VP14. In MSP12, it still seems to work. Tested with Neat Video 4.6.0.

Desktop: Ryzen R7 2700, RAM 2 x Ballistix DIMM 16 GB DDR4-2666, X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming, Radeon R9 380 4GB, Win10

Laptop: T420, W7 SP1, i5-2520M 4GB, SSD, HD Graphics 3000

VEGAS Pro 14-17, Movie Studio 12 Platinum, Vegasaur, HitfilmPro

fifonik wrote on 5/25/2018, 6:39 AM

The issue still not fixed in VP15 build 361

Camcorder: Panasonic X920

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X (not OC), RAM: G'Skill 16 GB DDR4@3200 (not OC), Graphics card: MSI RX580 8GB (factory OC), SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ NVMe 500MB (OS), HDDs: Seagate & Toshiba 2TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 1909

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17

Grazie wrote on 5/25/2018, 10:27 AM

The issue still not fixed in VP15 build 361


Well, it would appear it is fixed in B361 with NV 4.7:

Looks as if MAGIX and NV have done something. All the Identifying Frames are revealed.

fifonik wrote on 5/25/2018, 5:16 PM

Hm. Have you moved NeatVideo plugin before Pan/Clop in filters chain?

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Camcorder: Panasonic X920

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X (not OC), RAM: G'Skill 16 GB DDR4@3200 (not OC), Graphics card: MSI RX580 8GB (factory OC), SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ NVMe 500MB (OS), HDDs: Seagate & Toshiba 2TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 1909

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17

Grazie wrote on 5/26/2018, 12:05 AM

Hm. Have you moved NeatVideo plugin before Pan/Clop in filters chain?

Oops! 😬 I’ll go and check ...

 

Grazie wrote on 5/26/2018, 12:37 AM

Ugh . . Still the same - apologies . . . 😞 :

 

Grazie wrote on 5/26/2018, 1:24 AM

I've just updated the NeatVideo Forum and requested another knock on MAGIX's door. It's now 2 months and 2 Build Updates later.

Grazie wrote on 10/27/2018, 3:22 AM

Cheers Mate!

fifonik wrote on 10/27/2018, 5:08 PM

Thanks.

I wish they backported the fix to VP15.

Camcorder: Panasonic X920

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X (not OC), RAM: G'Skill 16 GB DDR4@3200 (not OC), Graphics card: MSI RX580 8GB (factory OC), SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ NVMe 500MB (OS), HDDs: Seagate & Toshiba 2TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 1909

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17

fifonik wrote on 11/29/2018, 7:33 PM

Confirming that the issue is fixed in VP15 build 416 as well.

Camcorder: Panasonic X920

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X (not OC), RAM: G'Skill 16 GB DDR4@3200 (not OC), Graphics card: MSI RX580 8GB (factory OC), SSD: Samsung 970 Evo+ NVMe 500MB (OS), HDDs: Seagate & Toshiba 2TB, OS: Windows 10 Pro 1909

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17