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j-v wrote on 6/1/2019, 10:01 AM

To get ideas we need more information.
Give at least what is asked for here at B and C : https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

 

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pawelaski wrote on 6/1/2019, 8:06 PM

Vegas Pro 16.0 (build424)
Windows 10 Pro (1803)
Sony A7RIII
"No response" few minutes after restart of Vegas, during working on project - usually when moving clip on timeline

General
Complete name                            : D:\Plastpol\C0162.MP4
Format                                   : XAVC
Codec ID                                 : XAVC (XAVC/mp42/iso2)
File size                                : 328 MiB
Duration                                 : 27 s 840 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 98.8 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-05-29 12:04:00
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-05-29 12:04:00

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames               : 2 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 27 s 840 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 96.5 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 100.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.465
Stream size                              : 320 MiB (98%)
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-05-29 12:04:00
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-05-29 12:04:00
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : xvYCC
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Big / Signed
Codec ID                                 : twos
Duration                                 : 27 s 840 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 5.10 MiB (2%)
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-05-29 12:04:00
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-05-29 12:04:00

Other
Type                                     : meta
Duration                                 : 27 s 840 ms

Graphic card: GTX 970
Driver: Nvidia 23.21.13.8813
GPU acceleration of video processing: off

 

 

Grazie wrote on 6/1/2019, 11:58 PM

@pawelaski - Hi there! Vegas isn't happy with Variable Bitrate:

"Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable"

And your Project Settings allows Vegas to keep adjusting:

For your i7 and specs that's a lot of maths going on and maybe now you've reached it's breaking point.

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j-v wrote on 6/2/2019, 3:02 AM

Seems logic to me that your hardware is going to protest.
1 You have a good GPU but does not use it perhaps maybe the installed drivers are much to old. So switch it on in hardware acceleration and install the newest drivers for that card i.c. 430,86 GR drivers.
2. You give too much work to your processor to use a project with twice the amount of frames than your sourcefiles have and with other dimensions. So if your output has to become not 4K but FHD let stay that size and change the framerate to 25 fps.

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Camera : Pan X900,GoPro Hero7 Hero Black
Desktop :AsRock Z270 Pro4, W10 , i7 7700K 4.2Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1050 Ti.
Laptop  :Asus ROG GL753VD, W10 home, version 1903 build 18.362, CPU i7 7700HQ, 16 GB RAM, GeF. GTX 1050 (2 GB) + Int. HD Graphics 630(2GB).
Both Nvidia GPU's have driver version 430.86 Studio Drivers
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j-v wrote on 6/2/2019, 3:12 AM

@Grazie

Vegas isn't happy with Variable Bitrate:
"Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable"

I have never known that Vegas does not like "Variable" bitrates. All my files have that and I never had a problem. Can you show me some place where that is written?
What else are variable framerates that in older versions than the last 16 build gave some problems.

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Laptop  :Asus ROG GL753VD, W10 home, version 1903 build 18.362, CPU i7 7700HQ, 16 GB RAM, GeF. GTX 1050 (2 GB) + Int. HD Graphics 630(2GB).
Both Nvidia GPU's have driver version 430.86 Studio Drivers
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Grazie wrote on 6/2/2019, 3:52 AM

I have never known that Vegas does not like "Variable" bitrates.

@j-v Neither had I. I’ve just cracked on. However there’s been observations concerning the pros and cons of VBR when ingesting “captured” VBR.

All my files have that and I never had a problem. Can you show me some place where that is written?

@j-v - Unless I’m mistaken with my interpretation, try this link:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/help-please-rendering-problem-video-goes-blocky-halfway-through--114493/#ca708122

If our chum here can remove the VBR from the stability issues then that’s what it was. Also having the combo of this AND Media being adjusted may just have been pushing or had finally pushed VP over the. maths Edge.

Stivi wrote on 6/2/2019, 8:11 AM

Hello,
@j-v & @Grazie I share your amazement. Many write it. But ....
I film with a SONY AXP33 in 25p, 60 Mbps, XAVC S 4K with the same characteristics as those indicated by
pawelaski. All my rushes are variable rate and I never had any serious problems with VP14 and VP16.
Only some problems with some plugins such as Legacy Stabilizer (but the problem is known).
Maybe it is only some encoders / devices / software with variable rate not very clean?
cordially

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  • PC Windows 10 ‎(X64)‎ 1903 Back to 1809
  • Intel Core i7 7700K Cadencé à 4.20 GHz
  • 32 Go de mémoire totale DDR4 G.SKILL
  • NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (NVIDIA Studio Drivers 430.86)
  • SSD 500 Go + 2 x 2 To HDD + BD/RE
  • Vegas Pro 16 Suite (build 424)
  • SoundForge Audio Studio 10 (build 252)
  • ACID Music Studio 10 (build 162)
  • Vidéo : Sony FDR-AXP33 (4K) => 25p => 60 Mbps => XAVC S 4K
  • Photo : Canon SX 60 HS + Sony RX 100 IV

Avant Végas Pro 16 :

  • Pinnacle Studio 10 (super en SD), 14 HD (super en SD mais nul en HD), 17 (crash à répétition)
  • Adobe Première 9 (1 crash en 1 an mais 1 mois de montage perdu, toutes les sauvegardes HS)
  • Magix Video Deluxe 2014 (trop de menus, sous-menu, sous-sous-menu)
  • Sony Movie Studio 13 (le début du bonheur), Sony Végas Pro 13, Végas Pro 14
pawelaski wrote on 6/2/2019, 8:29 AM

Thanks a lot for help.

I have updated the video driver (now the hardware acceleration is on), changed the framerate to 25 fps and unchecked "Adjust source media to ...".

Unfortunately after few minutes got "not responding" again. :(

pawelaski wrote on 6/11/2019, 10:51 AM

Hi,

I have reinstalled the software to another, much better computer.
Now I have:
64GB of DDR4
Intel Core i9-9900K
RTX2070 8GB GDDR6
Comfort of work is much better - faster previews, rendering, but ... I still get frezzing and "not responding". 😟

Common sense tell me that I have wasted money on Vegas software.


 

JN_ wrote on 6/11/2019, 11:16 AM

Hi @pawelaski maybe try working through this ... https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-troubleshooting-crashing-and-stability--104785/ Try item 9 first, if you haven’t already done so.

As @j-v suggests, set the program frame rate to 25fps. Also uncheck “adjust source media ...”

And this can be a big help, "Match Media Video Settings".

 

@Grazie I wonder if you’re thinking of vfr, most clips nowadays are vbr.

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Desktop and Laptop basic specs ...

Both run Win 10 ...

Running latest ver. of Vegas Pro with latest updates.

VP13 B453 also.

Vegaseur and Pluraleyes installed on both ...

Quicktime 7.79.80.95

PC ...

i9 9900K, Intel Graphics 630. Nov 2018.

Mem. 32gb DDR4 Nov. '18.

Graphics card .. Nvidia Rtx 2080 Ti

Nvidia Graphics driver .. latest Studio driver.

Intel Graphics driver

 

Laptop ... (Acer Predator G9-793-77AC)

CPU .. i7-6700HQ Skylake-H

Memory ..16GB DDR4 

Graphics card .. Nvidia GTX 1070, latest Studio driver.