VEGAS Pro 17 Edit Crashing VS Vegas Pro Edit 18 is It better!?

joseph-desaavedra wrote on 8/4/2020, 4:48 PM

I had issues with Crashing in Version 17 that I spent a ton of time isolating but never really fixing. What it boiled down to what that crashes occurred when deleting segments of time lines mostly key framed text but not limited too (would also crash with deleting small segments of video, mostly if when doing multiple deletes rapidly. This happens on about 80% of deletes while doing edits. My fix is to avoid deleting segments of video or text in time line. Crashes are very rare now in Build 452 after making many videos. This is the culmination of all threads I had over crashing. Much of the real help (and sometimes abuse) came from this forum. Zero help ever came from tech support. Any who...I see version 18 is out and I in spite of the massive amount of time lost and wasted fixing (or not really fixing) my issues I still like to support the software and am wanting to upgrade. My question is...18 More stable or am I going to ad another round of headaches and trouble shooting to trip me up and slow down the production of my Youtube videos. I short , is it more stable and worth it? Should I just stick with what I got.??

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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor
Threading
1 CPU - 16 Core - 32 Threads
Frequency
3466.73 MHz (34.75 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier
Current: 34.75
Architecture
Threadripper / Stepping: ZP-B1 / Technology: 14 nm
CPUID / Ext.
F.1.1 / 17.1
IA Extensions
MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches
L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 8192 KB
Caches Assoc.
L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode
Rev. 0x8001137
TDP / Vcore
180 Watts / 1.212 Volts
Temperature
63.5 °C / 146 °F
Type
Retail
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#04: 3491.67 MHz #05: 3491.67 MHz #06: 3466.73 MHz #07: 3466.73 MHz
#08: 3491.67 MHz #09: 3441.79 MHz #10: 3491.67 MHz #11: 3466.73 MHz
#12: 3466.73 MHz #13: 3491.67 MHz #14: 3466.73 MHz #15: 3466.73 MHz
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Model
Gigabyte X399 AORUS XTREME-CF
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Socket SP3r2 (4094)
North Bridge
AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
South Bridge
AMD X399 rev 51
BIOS
American Megatrends Inc. F5i (05/08/2019)
AMD AGESA
SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2
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32768 MB
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1596.2 MHz (DDR4-3192) - Ratio 1:16
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16-18-18-38-56-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
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G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
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G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
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G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (TU102-300) @ 300 MHz
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EVGA Corp.
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Seagate ST8000VN0022-2EL112 (FW: SC61)
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Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
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476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
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Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
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Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB
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953.9 GiB (~1020 GB)
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Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
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476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
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Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
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476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
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Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
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Dell Computer DELL P4317Q (DELD084)
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42.5 inches (108 cm) / 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 23-80 Hz
Miscellaneous
Windows Version
Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Windows Subver.
Build 18362
CPU-Z Version
1.90.0 (64 bit)

Comments

aboammar wrote on 8/4/2020, 5:20 PM

I am still testing V18 but so far I am not noticing any stability improvements over V17! This of course will be different for each user depending on to the used system, so it's best to download and test the trail version on your system and see for yourself.

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System Drive: 1TB M.2 (2500MB/s)

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joseph-desaavedra wrote on 8/4/2020, 5:53 PM

I hear ya, just trying to find out if there was any new blaring issues that would make me crazy.

 CPU Name
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor
Threading
1 CPU - 16 Core - 32 Threads
Frequency
3466.73 MHz (34.75 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier
Current: 34.75
Architecture
Threadripper / Stepping: ZP-B1 / Technology: 14 nm
CPUID / Ext.
F.1.1 / 17.1
IA Extensions
MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches
L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 8192 KB
Caches Assoc.
L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode
Rev. 0x8001137
TDP / Vcore
180 Watts / 1.212 Volts
Temperature
63.5 °C / 146 °F
Type
Retail
Cores Frequencies
#00: 3466.73 MHz #01: 3491.67 MHz #02: 3466.73 MHz #03: 3466.73 MHz
#04: 3491.67 MHz #05: 3491.67 MHz #06: 3466.73 MHz #07: 3466.73 MHz
#08: 3491.67 MHz #09: 3441.79 MHz #10: 3491.67 MHz #11: 3466.73 MHz
#12: 3466.73 MHz #13: 3491.67 MHz #14: 3466.73 MHz #15: 3466.73 MHz
Motherboard
Model
Gigabyte X399 AORUS XTREME-CF
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Socket SP3r2 (4094)
North Bridge
AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
South Bridge
AMD X399 rev 51
BIOS
American Megatrends Inc. F5i (05/08/2019)
AMD AGESA
SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2
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Total Size
32768 MB
Type
Quad Channel (256 bit) DDR4-SDRAM
Frequency
1596.2 MHz (DDR4-3192) - Ratio 1:16
Timings
16-18-18-38-56-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
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G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
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G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
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G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (TU102-300) @ 300 MHz
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EVGA Corp.
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TU102-300 / Process: 12nm / Transistors: 18600M / Die Size: 754 mm² / TDP: 260W
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Shader Units: 4352 / Texture Units (TMU): 272 / Render Units (ROP): 88
GPU VRAM
11264 MB GDDR6 352 bit @ 405 MHz (Samsung)
GPU APIs
DirectX 12.0 (12_1) / OpenGL 4.5 / OpenCL 1.2 / Vulkan 1.0
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Seagate ST8000VN0022-2EL112 (FW: SC61)
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Fixed - Bus: SATA (11)
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Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
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Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
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Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB
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953.9 GiB (~1020 GB)
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Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
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Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
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476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
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Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
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Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
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476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
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Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
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Dell Computer DELL P4317Q (DELD084)
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42.5 inches (108 cm) / 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 23-80 Hz
Miscellaneous
Windows Version
Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Windows Subver.
Build 18362
CPU-Z Version
1.90.0 (64 bit)

RogerS wrote on 8/4/2020, 10:28 PM

This question is very media and system specific.

I am noticing greater stability over 17 and a bit better GPU performance. The problems I see on this forum with VP 18 are often with HEVC, GoPro or DJI footage, so if you use a lot of those file types you may have trouble until it's fixed.

Overall I think it's going in a good direction- I am no longer using any workarounds to enhance stability.

joseph-desaavedra wrote on 8/4/2020, 10:33 PM

well that is good news, I use exclusively avc, no DJI or go pros. All matching Canon Cameras

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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor
Threading
1 CPU - 16 Core - 32 Threads
Frequency
3466.73 MHz (34.75 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier
Current: 34.75
Architecture
Threadripper / Stepping: ZP-B1 / Technology: 14 nm
CPUID / Ext.
F.1.1 / 17.1
IA Extensions
MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches
L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 8192 KB
Caches Assoc.
L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode
Rev. 0x8001137
TDP / Vcore
180 Watts / 1.212 Volts
Temperature
63.5 °C / 146 °F
Type
Retail
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Model
Gigabyte X399 AORUS XTREME-CF
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Socket SP3r2 (4094)
North Bridge
AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
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AMD X399 rev 51
BIOS
American Megatrends Inc. F5i (05/08/2019)
AMD AGESA
SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2
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32768 MB
Type
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Frequency
1596.2 MHz (DDR4-3192) - Ratio 1:16
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16-18-18-38-56-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
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G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
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G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
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G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (TU102-300) @ 300 MHz
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EVGA Corp.
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TU102-300 / Process: 12nm / Transistors: 18600M / Die Size: 754 mm² / TDP: 260W
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Shader Units: 4352 / Texture Units (TMU): 272 / Render Units (ROP): 88
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DirectX 12.0 (12_1) / OpenGL 4.5 / OpenCL 1.2 / Vulkan 1.0
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953.9 GiB (~1020 GB)
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Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
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Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
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476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
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42.5 inches (108 cm) / 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 23-80 Hz
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Windows Version
Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Windows Subver.
Build 18362
CPU-Z Version
1.90.0 (64 bit)

RogerS wrote on 8/4/2020, 10:51 PM

I'm on matching Sony AVCs and have yet to crash it (I need to do more editing though to say more). I'd give it a try.

joseph-desaavedra wrote on 8/4/2020, 10:58 PM

I'm on matching Sony AVCs and have yet to crash it (I need to do more editing though to say more). I'd give it a try.

I got a video to shoot tomorrow, gonna see what happens

 CPU Name
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor
Threading
1 CPU - 16 Core - 32 Threads
Frequency
3466.73 MHz (34.75 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier
Current: 34.75
Architecture
Threadripper / Stepping: ZP-B1 / Technology: 14 nm
CPUID / Ext.
F.1.1 / 17.1
IA Extensions
MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches
L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 8192 KB
Caches Assoc.
L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode
Rev. 0x8001137
TDP / Vcore
180 Watts / 1.212 Volts
Temperature
63.5 °C / 146 °F
Type
Retail
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#00: 3466.73 MHz #01: 3491.67 MHz #02: 3466.73 MHz #03: 3466.73 MHz
#04: 3491.67 MHz #05: 3491.67 MHz #06: 3466.73 MHz #07: 3466.73 MHz
#08: 3491.67 MHz #09: 3441.79 MHz #10: 3491.67 MHz #11: 3466.73 MHz
#12: 3466.73 MHz #13: 3491.67 MHz #14: 3466.73 MHz #15: 3466.73 MHz
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Model
Gigabyte X399 AORUS XTREME-CF
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Socket SP3r2 (4094)
North Bridge
AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
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AMD X399 rev 51
BIOS
American Megatrends Inc. F5i (05/08/2019)
AMD AGESA
SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2
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Total Size
32768 MB
Type
Quad Channel (256 bit) DDR4-SDRAM
Frequency
1596.2 MHz (DDR4-3192) - Ratio 1:16
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16-18-18-38-56-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
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G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
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G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (TU102-300) @ 300 MHz
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EVGA Corp.
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TU102-300 / Process: 12nm / Transistors: 18600M / Die Size: 754 mm² / TDP: 260W
GPU Units
Shader Units: 4352 / Texture Units (TMU): 272 / Render Units (ROP): 88
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11264 MB GDDR6 352 bit @ 405 MHz (Samsung)
GPU APIs
DirectX 12.0 (12_1) / OpenGL 4.5 / OpenCL 1.2 / Vulkan 1.0
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Seagate ST8000VN0022-2EL112 (FW: SC61)
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7452.0 GiB (~8010 GB)
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Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
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953.9 GiB (~1020 GB)
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Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
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Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
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476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
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Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
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Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
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476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
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Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
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Screen #1
Dell Computer DELL P4317Q (DELD084)
Screen #1 Spec
42.5 inches (108 cm) / 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 23-80 Hz
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Windows Version
Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Windows Subver.
Build 18362
CPU-Z Version
1.90.0 (64 bit)

fr0sty wrote on 8/5/2020, 12:28 AM

In my experience, even when 18 freezes, it is able to recover from it. Since the release build, I haven't had a single crash.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 8/5/2020, 12:44 AM

Yes, their is quite a noticeable improvement in stability in version 18 over Version 17 !

Phil_P wrote on 8/5/2020, 12:45 AM

I was able to repro my crashing issue within 30 seconds of starting V18 trial.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/split-delete-while-playing-causing-huge-hangs--122520/

joseph-desaavedra wrote on 8/5/2020, 6:33 AM

Yes, their is quite a noticeable improvement in stability in version 18 over Version 17 !

Well okay! I had 17 down to almost no crashing thanks

 CPU Name
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor
Threading
1 CPU - 16 Core - 32 Threads
Frequency
3466.73 MHz (34.75 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier
Current: 34.75
Architecture
Threadripper / Stepping: ZP-B1 / Technology: 14 nm
CPUID / Ext.
F.1.1 / 17.1
IA Extensions
MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches
L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 8192 KB
Caches Assoc.
L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode
Rev. 0x8001137
TDP / Vcore
180 Watts / 1.212 Volts
Temperature
63.5 °C / 146 °F
Type
Retail
Cores Frequencies
#00: 3466.73 MHz #01: 3491.67 MHz #02: 3466.73 MHz #03: 3466.73 MHz
#04: 3491.67 MHz #05: 3491.67 MHz #06: 3466.73 MHz #07: 3466.73 MHz
#08: 3491.67 MHz #09: 3441.79 MHz #10: 3491.67 MHz #11: 3466.73 MHz
#12: 3466.73 MHz #13: 3491.67 MHz #14: 3466.73 MHz #15: 3466.73 MHz
Motherboard
Model
Gigabyte X399 AORUS XTREME-CF
Socket
Socket SP3r2 (4094)
North Bridge
AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
South Bridge
AMD X399 rev 51
BIOS
American Megatrends Inc. F5i (05/08/2019)
AMD AGESA
SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2
Memory (RAM)
Total Size
32768 MB
Type
Quad Channel (256 bit) DDR4-SDRAM
Frequency
1596.2 MHz (DDR4-3192) - Ratio 1:16
Timings
16-18-18-38-56-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
Slot #1 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #2 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #3 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #4 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Graphic Card (GPU)
GPU Type
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (TU102-300) @ 300 MHz
GPU Brand
EVGA Corp.
GPU Specs
TU102-300 / Process: 12nm / Transistors: 18600M / Die Size: 754 mm² / TDP: 260W
GPU Units
Shader Units: 4352 / Texture Units (TMU): 272 / Render Units (ROP): 88
GPU VRAM
11264 MB GDDR6 352 bit @ 405 MHz (Samsung)
GPU APIs
DirectX 12.0 (12_1) / OpenGL 4.5 / OpenCL 1.2 / Vulkan 1.0
Storage (HDD/SSD)
Model #1 Name
Seagate ST8000VN0022-2EL112 (FW: SC61)
Model #1 Capacity
7452.0 GiB (~8010 GB)
Model #1 Type
Fixed - Bus: SATA (11)
Model #2 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #2 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #2 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #3 Name
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB
Model #3 Capacity
953.9 GiB (~1020 GB)
Model #3 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #4 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #4 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #4 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #5 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #5 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #5 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Display
Screen #1
Dell Computer DELL P4317Q (DELD084)
Screen #1 Spec
42.5 inches (108 cm) / 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 23-80 Hz
Miscellaneous
Windows Version
Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Windows Subver.
Build 18362
CPU-Z Version
1.90.0 (64 bit)

andyrpsmith wrote on 8/5/2020, 7:48 AM

I had some funny behaviour at the beginning. I use Sony XAVC 4K (AX100 & AX700). I am making a short video (39 clips) of a National Trust visit. All clips on time line, I added the legacy stabilisation media FX which completed its conversion OK, I then clicked play from start and V18 froze with white screen. Only option was restart V18, it did this a few times than seemed to work fine.

D7K wrote on 8/5/2020, 8:25 AM

Be patience with 18, it can recover but sometimes takes a few or more seconds.

Just the improve in this and the GPU utilization make 18 a winner for me.

joseph-desaavedra wrote on 8/5/2020, 9:20 AM

yeah just installed it, 14 was like that for me. it would recover after about 5 minutes. I am looking forward to editing this afternoon, got to go shoot the video now..

 CPU Name
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor
Threading
1 CPU - 16 Core - 32 Threads
Frequency
3466.73 MHz (34.75 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier
Current: 34.75
Architecture
Threadripper / Stepping: ZP-B1 / Technology: 14 nm
CPUID / Ext.
F.1.1 / 17.1
IA Extensions
MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches
L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 8192 KB
Caches Assoc.
L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode
Rev. 0x8001137
TDP / Vcore
180 Watts / 1.212 Volts
Temperature
63.5 °C / 146 °F
Type
Retail
Cores Frequencies
#00: 3466.73 MHz #01: 3491.67 MHz #02: 3466.73 MHz #03: 3466.73 MHz
#04: 3491.67 MHz #05: 3491.67 MHz #06: 3466.73 MHz #07: 3466.73 MHz
#08: 3491.67 MHz #09: 3441.79 MHz #10: 3491.67 MHz #11: 3466.73 MHz
#12: 3466.73 MHz #13: 3491.67 MHz #14: 3466.73 MHz #15: 3466.73 MHz
Motherboard
Model
Gigabyte X399 AORUS XTREME-CF
Socket
Socket SP3r2 (4094)
North Bridge
AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
South Bridge
AMD X399 rev 51
BIOS
American Megatrends Inc. F5i (05/08/2019)
AMD AGESA
SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2
Memory (RAM)
Total Size
32768 MB
Type
Quad Channel (256 bit) DDR4-SDRAM
Frequency
1596.2 MHz (DDR4-3192) - Ratio 1:16
Timings
16-18-18-38-56-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
Slot #1 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #2 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #3 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #4 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Graphic Card (GPU)
GPU Type
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (TU102-300) @ 300 MHz
GPU Brand
EVGA Corp.
GPU Specs
TU102-300 / Process: 12nm / Transistors: 18600M / Die Size: 754 mm² / TDP: 260W
GPU Units
Shader Units: 4352 / Texture Units (TMU): 272 / Render Units (ROP): 88
GPU VRAM
11264 MB GDDR6 352 bit @ 405 MHz (Samsung)
GPU APIs
DirectX 12.0 (12_1) / OpenGL 4.5 / OpenCL 1.2 / Vulkan 1.0
Storage (HDD/SSD)
Model #1 Name
Seagate ST8000VN0022-2EL112 (FW: SC61)
Model #1 Capacity
7452.0 GiB (~8010 GB)
Model #1 Type
Fixed - Bus: SATA (11)
Model #2 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #2 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #2 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #3 Name
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB
Model #3 Capacity
953.9 GiB (~1020 GB)
Model #3 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #4 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #4 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #4 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #5 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #5 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #5 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Display
Screen #1
Dell Computer DELL P4317Q (DELD084)
Screen #1 Spec
42.5 inches (108 cm) / 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 23-80 Hz
Miscellaneous
Windows Version
Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Windows Subver.
Build 18362
CPU-Z Version
1.90.0 (64 bit)

joseph-desaavedra wrote on 8/5/2020, 9:20 AM

you all using high DPI and does it effect stability?

 CPU Name
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor
Threading
1 CPU - 16 Core - 32 Threads
Frequency
3466.73 MHz (34.75 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier
Current: 34.75
Architecture
Threadripper / Stepping: ZP-B1 / Technology: 14 nm
CPUID / Ext.
F.1.1 / 17.1
IA Extensions
MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches
L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 8192 KB
Caches Assoc.
L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode
Rev. 0x8001137
TDP / Vcore
180 Watts / 1.212 Volts
Temperature
63.5 °C / 146 °F
Type
Retail
Cores Frequencies
#00: 3466.73 MHz #01: 3491.67 MHz #02: 3466.73 MHz #03: 3466.73 MHz
#04: 3491.67 MHz #05: 3491.67 MHz #06: 3466.73 MHz #07: 3466.73 MHz
#08: 3491.67 MHz #09: 3441.79 MHz #10: 3491.67 MHz #11: 3466.73 MHz
#12: 3466.73 MHz #13: 3491.67 MHz #14: 3466.73 MHz #15: 3466.73 MHz
Motherboard
Model
Gigabyte X399 AORUS XTREME-CF
Socket
Socket SP3r2 (4094)
North Bridge
AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
South Bridge
AMD X399 rev 51
BIOS
American Megatrends Inc. F5i (05/08/2019)
AMD AGESA
SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2
Memory (RAM)
Total Size
32768 MB
Type
Quad Channel (256 bit) DDR4-SDRAM
Frequency
1596.2 MHz (DDR4-3192) - Ratio 1:16
Timings
16-18-18-38-56-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
Slot #1 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #2 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #3 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #4 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Graphic Card (GPU)
GPU Type
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (TU102-300) @ 300 MHz
GPU Brand
EVGA Corp.
GPU Specs
TU102-300 / Process: 12nm / Transistors: 18600M / Die Size: 754 mm² / TDP: 260W
GPU Units
Shader Units: 4352 / Texture Units (TMU): 272 / Render Units (ROP): 88
GPU VRAM
11264 MB GDDR6 352 bit @ 405 MHz (Samsung)
GPU APIs
DirectX 12.0 (12_1) / OpenGL 4.5 / OpenCL 1.2 / Vulkan 1.0
Storage (HDD/SSD)
Model #1 Name
Seagate ST8000VN0022-2EL112 (FW: SC61)
Model #1 Capacity
7452.0 GiB (~8010 GB)
Model #1 Type
Fixed - Bus: SATA (11)
Model #2 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #2 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #2 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #3 Name
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB
Model #3 Capacity
953.9 GiB (~1020 GB)
Model #3 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #4 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #4 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #4 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #5 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #5 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #5 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Display
Screen #1
Dell Computer DELL P4317Q (DELD084)
Screen #1 Spec
42.5 inches (108 cm) / 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 23-80 Hz
Miscellaneous
Windows Version
Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Windows Subver.
Build 18362
CPU-Z Version
1.90.0 (64 bit)

joseph-desaavedra wrote on 8/5/2020, 6:17 PM

well had my first crash, nothing to do with deleting.. everything pretty much set to default, any major tweaks I need to do?? It does not look like it will recover, I do like the playback in preview it seems smoother. I am running in high DPI mode, and that seemed like it cause problems with 17 so I will ditch that and move on.. thanks for all your help.. I am not upset I figured it would be a little buggy.

 CPU Name
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor
Threading
1 CPU - 16 Core - 32 Threads
Frequency
3466.73 MHz (34.75 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier
Current: 34.75
Architecture
Threadripper / Stepping: ZP-B1 / Technology: 14 nm
CPUID / Ext.
F.1.1 / 17.1
IA Extensions
MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches
L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 8192 KB
Caches Assoc.
L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode
Rev. 0x8001137
TDP / Vcore
180 Watts / 1.212 Volts
Temperature
63.5 °C / 146 °F
Type
Retail
Cores Frequencies
#00: 3466.73 MHz #01: 3491.67 MHz #02: 3466.73 MHz #03: 3466.73 MHz
#04: 3491.67 MHz #05: 3491.67 MHz #06: 3466.73 MHz #07: 3466.73 MHz
#08: 3491.67 MHz #09: 3441.79 MHz #10: 3491.67 MHz #11: 3466.73 MHz
#12: 3466.73 MHz #13: 3491.67 MHz #14: 3466.73 MHz #15: 3466.73 MHz
Motherboard
Model
Gigabyte X399 AORUS XTREME-CF
Socket
Socket SP3r2 (4094)
North Bridge
AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
South Bridge
AMD X399 rev 51
BIOS
American Megatrends Inc. F5i (05/08/2019)
AMD AGESA
SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2
Memory (RAM)
Total Size
32768 MB
Type
Quad Channel (256 bit) DDR4-SDRAM
Frequency
1596.2 MHz (DDR4-3192) - Ratio 1:16
Timings
16-18-18-38-56-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
Slot #1 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #2 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #3 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #4 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Graphic Card (GPU)
GPU Type
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (TU102-300) @ 300 MHz
GPU Brand
EVGA Corp.
GPU Specs
TU102-300 / Process: 12nm / Transistors: 18600M / Die Size: 754 mm² / TDP: 260W
GPU Units
Shader Units: 4352 / Texture Units (TMU): 272 / Render Units (ROP): 88
GPU VRAM
11264 MB GDDR6 352 bit @ 405 MHz (Samsung)
GPU APIs
DirectX 12.0 (12_1) / OpenGL 4.5 / OpenCL 1.2 / Vulkan 1.0
Storage (HDD/SSD)
Model #1 Name
Seagate ST8000VN0022-2EL112 (FW: SC61)
Model #1 Capacity
7452.0 GiB (~8010 GB)
Model #1 Type
Fixed - Bus: SATA (11)
Model #2 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #2 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #2 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #3 Name
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB
Model #3 Capacity
953.9 GiB (~1020 GB)
Model #3 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #4 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #4 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #4 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #5 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #5 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #5 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Display
Screen #1
Dell Computer DELL P4317Q (DELD084)
Screen #1 Spec
42.5 inches (108 cm) / 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 23-80 Hz
Miscellaneous
Windows Version
Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Windows Subver.
Build 18362
CPU-Z Version
1.90.0 (64 bit)

chris-minchin wrote on 8/5/2020, 7:49 PM

I have Vegas Pro 16/17, and the trial version of Vegas Pro 18. When I first tried V18 my impression was that while it had some very good new features it seemed to render more slowly than V16/17.

I have now conducted a trial on all three and have found that my suspicions were correct, Vegas Pro 18 rendering times are consistently slower than the others by quite a big margin.

When I conducted these tests I made sure that all parameters were exactly the same.

 

Is there a logical reason for this apparent slowness in the latest version, that looks so promising?

joseph-desaavedra wrote on 8/5/2020, 7:55 PM

interesting. I have about 3 more hours of editing time will let you know if the render timer are slower. MY settings are identical

 CPU Name
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor
Threading
1 CPU - 16 Core - 32 Threads
Frequency
3466.73 MHz (34.75 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier
Current: 34.75
Architecture
Threadripper / Stepping: ZP-B1 / Technology: 14 nm
CPUID / Ext.
F.1.1 / 17.1
IA Extensions
MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches
L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 8192 KB
Caches Assoc.
L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode
Rev. 0x8001137
TDP / Vcore
180 Watts / 1.212 Volts
Temperature
63.5 °C / 146 °F
Type
Retail
Cores Frequencies
#00: 3466.73 MHz #01: 3491.67 MHz #02: 3466.73 MHz #03: 3466.73 MHz
#04: 3491.67 MHz #05: 3491.67 MHz #06: 3466.73 MHz #07: 3466.73 MHz
#08: 3491.67 MHz #09: 3441.79 MHz #10: 3491.67 MHz #11: 3466.73 MHz
#12: 3466.73 MHz #13: 3491.67 MHz #14: 3466.73 MHz #15: 3466.73 MHz
Motherboard
Model
Gigabyte X399 AORUS XTREME-CF
Socket
Socket SP3r2 (4094)
North Bridge
AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
South Bridge
AMD X399 rev 51
BIOS
American Megatrends Inc. F5i (05/08/2019)
AMD AGESA
SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2
Memory (RAM)
Total Size
32768 MB
Type
Quad Channel (256 bit) DDR4-SDRAM
Frequency
1596.2 MHz (DDR4-3192) - Ratio 1:16
Timings
16-18-18-38-56-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
Slot #1 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #2 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #3 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #4 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Graphic Card (GPU)
GPU Type
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (TU102-300) @ 300 MHz
GPU Brand
EVGA Corp.
GPU Specs
TU102-300 / Process: 12nm / Transistors: 18600M / Die Size: 754 mm² / TDP: 260W
GPU Units
Shader Units: 4352 / Texture Units (TMU): 272 / Render Units (ROP): 88
GPU VRAM
11264 MB GDDR6 352 bit @ 405 MHz (Samsung)
GPU APIs
DirectX 12.0 (12_1) / OpenGL 4.5 / OpenCL 1.2 / Vulkan 1.0
Storage (HDD/SSD)
Model #1 Name
Seagate ST8000VN0022-2EL112 (FW: SC61)
Model #1 Capacity
7452.0 GiB (~8010 GB)
Model #1 Type
Fixed - Bus: SATA (11)
Model #2 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #2 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #2 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #3 Name
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB
Model #3 Capacity
953.9 GiB (~1020 GB)
Model #3 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #4 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #4 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #4 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #5 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #5 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #5 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Display
Screen #1
Dell Computer DELL P4317Q (DELD084)
Screen #1 Spec
42.5 inches (108 cm) / 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 23-80 Hz
Miscellaneous
Windows Version
Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Windows Subver.
Build 18362
CPU-Z Version
1.90.0 (64 bit)

aboammar wrote on 8/6/2020, 9:26 PM

I have Vegas Pro 16/17, and the trial version of Vegas Pro 18. When I first tried V18 my impression was that while it had some very good new features it seemed to render more slowly than V16/17.

I have now conducted a trial on all three and have found that my suspicions were correct, Vegas Pro 18 rendering times are consistently slower than the others by quite a big margin.

When I conducted these tests I made sure that all parameters were exactly the same.

 

Is there a logical reason for this apparent slowness in the latest version, that looks so promising?

In my system, V18 render a little faster than V17!

Last changed by aboammar on 8/6/2020, 9:27 PM, changed a total of 2 times.

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joseph-desaavedra wrote on 8/6/2020, 9:32 PM

my did about 10% faster last night although it crashed on my once when I was making a .jpg thumbnail for my video and another during video editing (in High DPI mode which I turned off). I have noticed a little weird behavior doing text. So far I will stay with it unless I start having crash issues, I can always drop back to 17 till the next update, but so. Thanks man

 CPU Name
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor
Threading
1 CPU - 16 Core - 32 Threads
Frequency
3466.73 MHz (34.75 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier
Current: 34.75
Architecture
Threadripper / Stepping: ZP-B1 / Technology: 14 nm
CPUID / Ext.
F.1.1 / 17.1
IA Extensions
MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches
L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 8192 KB
Caches Assoc.
L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode
Rev. 0x8001137
TDP / Vcore
180 Watts / 1.212 Volts
Temperature
63.5 °C / 146 °F
Type
Retail
Cores Frequencies
#00: 3466.73 MHz #01: 3491.67 MHz #02: 3466.73 MHz #03: 3466.73 MHz
#04: 3491.67 MHz #05: 3491.67 MHz #06: 3466.73 MHz #07: 3466.73 MHz
#08: 3491.67 MHz #09: 3441.79 MHz #10: 3491.67 MHz #11: 3466.73 MHz
#12: 3466.73 MHz #13: 3491.67 MHz #14: 3466.73 MHz #15: 3466.73 MHz
Motherboard
Model
Gigabyte X399 AORUS XTREME-CF
Socket
Socket SP3r2 (4094)
North Bridge
AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
South Bridge
AMD X399 rev 51
BIOS
American Megatrends Inc. F5i (05/08/2019)
AMD AGESA
SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2
Memory (RAM)
Total Size
32768 MB
Type
Quad Channel (256 bit) DDR4-SDRAM
Frequency
1596.2 MHz (DDR4-3192) - Ratio 1:16
Timings
16-18-18-38-56-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
Slot #1 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #2 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #3 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #4 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Graphic Card (GPU)
GPU Type
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (TU102-300) @ 300 MHz
GPU Brand
EVGA Corp.
GPU Specs
TU102-300 / Process: 12nm / Transistors: 18600M / Die Size: 754 mm² / TDP: 260W
GPU Units
Shader Units: 4352 / Texture Units (TMU): 272 / Render Units (ROP): 88
GPU VRAM
11264 MB GDDR6 352 bit @ 405 MHz (Samsung)
GPU APIs
DirectX 12.0 (12_1) / OpenGL 4.5 / OpenCL 1.2 / Vulkan 1.0
Storage (HDD/SSD)
Model #1 Name
Seagate ST8000VN0022-2EL112 (FW: SC61)
Model #1 Capacity
7452.0 GiB (~8010 GB)
Model #1 Type
Fixed - Bus: SATA (11)
Model #2 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #2 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #2 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #3 Name
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB
Model #3 Capacity
953.9 GiB (~1020 GB)
Model #3 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #4 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #4 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #4 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #5 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #5 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #5 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Display
Screen #1
Dell Computer DELL P4317Q (DELD084)
Screen #1 Spec
42.5 inches (108 cm) / 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 23-80 Hz
Miscellaneous
Windows Version
Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Windows Subver.
Build 18362
CPU-Z Version
1.90.0 (64 bit)

joseph-desaavedra wrote on 8/7/2020, 11:02 PM

well after making a couple videos it seems to render a little faster, not much else I can see improved, the deleting text instability is still there. It seems a little more buggy than 17, when making new text boxes it copy's the last one you made and you have to manually reset it to default. I am on the fence on throwing to the side till the next update comes out, not going down the tech support time sink hole. I am just gonna keep pumping out videos. that's my take. I send off the crash reports to the "never gonna look at folder" in Germany..oh well.. back the the videos!

 CPU Name
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor
Threading
1 CPU - 16 Core - 32 Threads
Frequency
3466.73 MHz (34.75 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier
Current: 34.75
Architecture
Threadripper / Stepping: ZP-B1 / Technology: 14 nm
CPUID / Ext.
F.1.1 / 17.1
IA Extensions
MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches
L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 8192 KB
Caches Assoc.
L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode
Rev. 0x8001137
TDP / Vcore
180 Watts / 1.212 Volts
Temperature
63.5 °C / 146 °F
Type
Retail
Cores Frequencies
#00: 3466.73 MHz #01: 3491.67 MHz #02: 3466.73 MHz #03: 3466.73 MHz
#04: 3491.67 MHz #05: 3491.67 MHz #06: 3466.73 MHz #07: 3466.73 MHz
#08: 3491.67 MHz #09: 3441.79 MHz #10: 3491.67 MHz #11: 3466.73 MHz
#12: 3466.73 MHz #13: 3491.67 MHz #14: 3466.73 MHz #15: 3466.73 MHz
Motherboard
Model
Gigabyte X399 AORUS XTREME-CF
Socket
Socket SP3r2 (4094)
North Bridge
AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
South Bridge
AMD X399 rev 51
BIOS
American Megatrends Inc. F5i (05/08/2019)
AMD AGESA
SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2
Memory (RAM)
Total Size
32768 MB
Type
Quad Channel (256 bit) DDR4-SDRAM
Frequency
1596.2 MHz (DDR4-3192) - Ratio 1:16
Timings
16-18-18-38-56-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
Slot #1 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #2 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #3 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #4 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Graphic Card (GPU)
GPU Type
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (TU102-300) @ 300 MHz
GPU Brand
EVGA Corp.
GPU Specs
TU102-300 / Process: 12nm / Transistors: 18600M / Die Size: 754 mm² / TDP: 260W
GPU Units
Shader Units: 4352 / Texture Units (TMU): 272 / Render Units (ROP): 88
GPU VRAM
11264 MB GDDR6 352 bit @ 405 MHz (Samsung)
GPU APIs
DirectX 12.0 (12_1) / OpenGL 4.5 / OpenCL 1.2 / Vulkan 1.0
Storage (HDD/SSD)
Model #1 Name
Seagate ST8000VN0022-2EL112 (FW: SC61)
Model #1 Capacity
7452.0 GiB (~8010 GB)
Model #1 Type
Fixed - Bus: SATA (11)
Model #2 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #2 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #2 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #3 Name
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB
Model #3 Capacity
953.9 GiB (~1020 GB)
Model #3 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #4 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #4 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #4 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
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Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #5 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #5 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Display
Screen #1
Dell Computer DELL P4317Q (DELD084)
Screen #1 Spec
42.5 inches (108 cm) / 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 23-80 Hz
Miscellaneous
Windows Version
Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Windows Subver.
Build 18362
CPU-Z Version
1.90.0 (64 bit)

aboammar wrote on 8/7/2020, 11:31 PM

@joseph-desaavedra  Every version behaves differently on different systems, however until now, I did not find that V18 is less stable than V17!

HP Z1 AIO Workstation G3

OS: Windows 10 Pro 64bit

Display: 23.6" UHD 4K

CPU: Xeon E3-1270 v5  quad-core @ 3.60GHz, 8MB cache, up to 4GHz with Intel Turbo Boost Technology

GPU: nVidia Quadro M2000M 4GB

RAM: 32GB DDR4 2133MHz ECC memory

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Working Drive: 1TB M.2 (2500MB/s)

Storage Drive: 3GB SSD (500MB/s)

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joseph-desaavedra wrote on 8/7/2020, 11:43 PM

not really less stable, it crashes the same way 17 does, but a little more buggy with the text editing and deleting crashes. Like I say the jury is still out. I already paid for it, that has never been the issue. But if it annoys me too much and slows me down it goes to the side till the next update or so. Rendering is definitely faster, but that is an extra minute on a render does not really matter, I loose that much on a crash. the color correction seems better too, did not mention that.

 CPU Name
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor
Threading
1 CPU - 16 Core - 32 Threads
Frequency
3466.73 MHz (34.75 * 99.76 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier
Current: 34.75
Architecture
Threadripper / Stepping: ZP-B1 / Technology: 14 nm
CPUID / Ext.
F.1.1 / 17.1
IA Extensions
MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches
L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 8192 KB
Caches Assoc.
L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode
Rev. 0x8001137
TDP / Vcore
180 Watts / 1.212 Volts
Temperature
63.5 °C / 146 °F
Type
Retail
Cores Frequencies
#00: 3466.73 MHz #01: 3491.67 MHz #02: 3466.73 MHz #03: 3466.73 MHz
#04: 3491.67 MHz #05: 3491.67 MHz #06: 3466.73 MHz #07: 3466.73 MHz
#08: 3491.67 MHz #09: 3441.79 MHz #10: 3491.67 MHz #11: 3466.73 MHz
#12: 3466.73 MHz #13: 3491.67 MHz #14: 3466.73 MHz #15: 3466.73 MHz
Motherboard
Model
Gigabyte X399 AORUS XTREME-CF
Socket
Socket SP3r2 (4094)
North Bridge
AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
South Bridge
AMD X399 rev 51
BIOS
American Megatrends Inc. F5i (05/08/2019)
AMD AGESA
SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2
Memory (RAM)
Total Size
32768 MB
Type
Quad Channel (256 bit) DDR4-SDRAM
Frequency
1596.2 MHz (DDR4-3192) - Ratio 1:16
Timings
16-18-18-38-56-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
Slot #1 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #2 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #3 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Slot #4 Module
G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR4-2137) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: F4-3200C16-8GTZR
Graphic Card (GPU)
GPU Type
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (TU102-300) @ 300 MHz
GPU Brand
EVGA Corp.
GPU Specs
TU102-300 / Process: 12nm / Transistors: 18600M / Die Size: 754 mm² / TDP: 260W
GPU Units
Shader Units: 4352 / Texture Units (TMU): 272 / Render Units (ROP): 88
GPU VRAM
11264 MB GDDR6 352 bit @ 405 MHz (Samsung)
GPU APIs
DirectX 12.0 (12_1) / OpenGL 4.5 / OpenCL 1.2 / Vulkan 1.0
Storage (HDD/SSD)
Model #1 Name
Seagate ST8000VN0022-2EL112 (FW: SC61)
Model #1 Capacity
7452.0 GiB (~8010 GB)
Model #1 Type
Fixed - Bus: SATA (11)
Model #2 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #2 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #2 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #3 Name
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB
Model #3 Capacity
953.9 GiB (~1020 GB)
Model #3 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #4 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #4 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #4 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Model #5 Name
Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB
Model #5 Capacity
476.9 GiB (~510 GB)
Model #5 Type
Fixed, SSD - Bus: NVMe (17)
Display
Screen #1
Dell Computer DELL P4317Q (DELD084)
Screen #1 Spec
42.5 inches (108 cm) / 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 23-80 Hz
Miscellaneous
Windows Version
Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Windows Subver.
Build 18362
CPU-Z Version
1.90.0 (64 bit)

aboammar wrote on 8/8/2020, 12:13 AM

@joseph-desaavedra Well, it bothers me too that Vegas Pro is not getting any better when it comes to stability! The development team must focus only on improving stability and performance, not on introducing new features! And I don't think that Vegas Pro will ever be competitive in term of stability, not until the team rewrite it from scratch with the best modern programming tools. When the core is rock solid stable, then they can introduce new features with every new version because stability is far more important than any new feature.

HP Z1 AIO Workstation G3

OS: Windows 10 Pro 64bit

Display: 23.6" UHD 4K

CPU: Xeon E3-1270 v5  quad-core @ 3.60GHz, 8MB cache, up to 4GHz with Intel Turbo Boost Technology

GPU: nVidia Quadro M2000M 4GB

RAM: 32GB DDR4 2133MHz ECC memory

System Drive: 1TB M.2 (2500MB/s)

Working Drive: 1TB M.2 (2500MB/s)

Storage Drive: 3GB SSD (500MB/s)

Video: Vegas Pro 16 Suite / DaVinci Resolve 16 Studio

Audio: PreSonus Studio One Pro 5

Graphics: CorelDraw Technical Suite 2020 / Xara Designer Pro X365

Image Editing: Corel PhotoPaint 2020 / Corel PaintShop Pro X9 Ultimate / PHASEONE Capture One Pro 11

3D Graphics: Maxon Cinema 4D Studio 10

Camera: Sony A7S II / A7 III

Website: www.innoviahouse.com

Vimeo: vimeo.com/innoviahouse

lenard-p wrote on 8/8/2020, 12:39 AM

They do appear to be doing the same work arounds as they did with VP17, but it's been improved for VP18, such as the automatic precaching. It still isn't perfect but is working better. This seems to be the reason people can do 2x and 3x etc where previously they couldn't. But only for so long until the playback catches up and the precached video frames have been exhausted