@Kogoro
Are you using the latest VPro update build 643?
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Hello,

I just tried today to rendering after updating on build 643, it also crashed

so, it crash on build 341, 458 & 643 on 3 computer with different hardware with different rendering settings (NVENC/AMD/QSV and MainConcept AVC) but, it doesnt crash during rendering on V18.

I will try the last possibility for me of rendering a long video on V19 is rendering in HEVC . If it doesnt work, i will stay on V18 even if it's more slow rendering and editing for long video. It started crash at rendering at the first time i got V19, before, on V18, no crash at redering (ok, fews crash with the time, 1 crash for 5-6 rendering but not all the time like the V19)

Any time you see "Kernelbase.dll", that means WINDOWS is crashing in some way.

Do a search on this forum for 0xe0434352 to see many other posts and see if there's any solutions that help.

Any time you see "Kernelbase.dll", that means WINDOWS is crashing in some way.

Do a search on this forum for 0xe0434352 to see many other posts and see if there's any solutions that help.

How that is possible it does same things on 3 different computer/hardware and windows with different installation  why also does that only on V19 and not V18, that's the question... (even if the error message is that) if it always worked well with V18. I have tried repair .NET framework, sfc/scannow and other things, nothings wrong and vegas always not working on V19.

In fact, on my other job with SKIDATA system and sometimes, the system say it's the coin validator is faultly but in reality, it's the bill to bill system but the error message on the screen say it's coin validator but the error message is wrong. If Vegas does that on 3 different computer, i dont think windows is the problem even if the message error say that. i think that is vegas creating a problem at windows and not windows at vegas because if it's the case V18 and other version will also not working and it's not the case.

I see others post but it offered no real solution exept "repair" Net framwork and saddly, that didnt work.

I hate theses type of error that we are unable to found whats wrong ^^'

Hopefully for me V18 is working fine.

PS: i hope my answer doesnt look too much "agressive" , i hate when it doesnt work and doesnt know the Real reason and why , i an Not angry of anyone ;)

And while you mention it Vegas has failed on 3 different computers, why then is it working on many, including mine? Where is the baseline for the problem? Are you working on the same project or have you tried doing something different?

My computer specs are listed below.

And while you mention it Vegas has failed on 3 different computers, why then is it working on many, including mine? Where is the baseline for the problem? Are you working on the same project or have you tried doing something different?

My computer specs are listed below.

 

Hi, thanks for the answer, Yes, same project but on 3 different computer. It's very Strange that it work fine on 18 and Not on 19, i dont understand why.

For the project, you can See all test i have does from putting media by media and test rendeering. It also does that only with long duration project. For a 15 minutes interview bases on the same project base, it doesnt crash. All logos, intro and ending are the same. Only différence is the lenght of the video. I know i can send all files for the project on the forum but it's difficult to does to the Size of the video. It's more than 1h in 4k and does more than 50gb.

@Kogoro thanks. The project I am working on is about 15 minutes in length. I will add it multiple times and see what happens.

@Kogoro thanks. The project I am working on is about 15 minutes in length. I will add it multiple times and see what happens.

Thanks ;)

The best is i send all my project to you but the problem is the video itself, 1h10 in 4k and more than 50gb , it will be hard to send it to you ^^' . If you really whant to Try m'y project i can Always Make an export or the project on my NAS and send you a link.

@Kogoro yeah... surely the project would be too much. The project I am working on is 50P 4K 420 8bit with transitions, color correcting, and Smartsound music.

It's going to take a while to render out. Average is 24fps.

At what point in time does the rendering stop? It's showing I still have slightly over 2 hours of rendering to go. According to Task Manager, CPU usage is around 40% and GPU 100% (Video Encode). I have Firefox open and going through emails. Bitdefender and Malwarebytes are also running in the background.

@Kogoro yeah... surely the project would be too much. The project I am working on is 50P 4K 420 8bit with transitions, color correcting, and Smartsound music.

It's going to take a while to render out. Average is 24fps.

At what point in time does the rendering stop? It's showing I still have slightly over 2 hours of rendering to go. According to Task Manager, CPU usage is around 40% and GPU 100% (Video Encode). I have Firefox open and going through emails. Bitdefender and Malwarebytes are also running in the background.

It crashing randomly but after some rendering time, not at the beginning, here somes pictures of crash as you can see the rendering time:


As you can see, i have tested on two vegas build and both does sames crash.

Here is the MediaInfo of the video:

General
Complete name               : Y:\Disque Caméra PANA-SONY\Panasonic HC-X1\DETO 2021\Samedi\02060002.MP4
Format                      : MPEG-4
Format profile              : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                    : mp42 (mp42/avc1)
File size                   : 50.1 GiB
Duration                    : 1 h 14 min
Overall bit rate mode       : Variable
Overall bit rate            : 95.6 Mb/s
Encoded date                : UTC 2021-10-30 17:35:47
Tagged date                 : UTC 2021-10-30 17:35:47Video
ID                          : 1
Format                      : AVC
Format/Info                 : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile              : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC      : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames   : 2 frames
Codec ID                    : avc1
Codec ID/Info               : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                    : 1 h 14 min
Bit rate mode               : Variable
Bit rate                    : 94.1 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate            : 106 Mb/s
Width                       : 3 840 pixels
Height                      : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio        : 16:9
Frame rate mode             : Constant
Frame rate                  : 25.000 FPS
Color space                 : YUV
Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
Bit depth                   : 8 bits
Scan type                   : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.454
Stream size                 : 49.2 GiB (98%)
Language                    : English
Encoded date                : UTC 2021-10-30 17:35:47
Tagged date                 : UTC 2021-10-30 17:35:47
Color range                 : Limited
Color primaries             : BT.709
Transfer characteristics    : BT.709
Matrix coefficients         : BT.709Audio
ID                          : 2
Format                      : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign       : Signed
Codec ID                    : twos
Duration                    : 1 h 14 min
Bit rate mode               : Constant
Bit rate                    : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                  : 2 channels
Sampling rate               : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                   : 16 bits
Stream size                 : 823 MiB (2%)
Language                    : English
Encoded date                : UTC 2021-10-30 17:35:47
Tagged date                 : UTC 2021-10-30 17:35:47Other
ID                          : 3
Type                        : Time code
Format                      : QuickTime TC
Duration                    : 1 h 14 min
Time code of first frame    : 23:01:32:05
Time code, striped          : Yes
Language                    : English
Encoded date                : UTC 2021-10-30 17:35:47
Tagged date                 : UTC 2021-10-30 17:35:47
Bit rate mode               : CBR

For the system perf:
For the GPU, it^s normal it doesnt make so much because it have a rotating logo durinmg all the long of the video and that slow down much the rendering (same performances results for the 15min. interview). It goes more high if i just "Convert" the video with vegas.

Here is the recap of what i have tests:
 

1: video from the camera (with his integrated audio) only -> Rendering Sucessfull

2: Video from the camera and with the audio file from the Tascam DR701D -> rendering crashed

3: with the Main video and the animated logo -> Rendering sucessfull

4: same as 3 but with intro and ending title -> Rendering sucessfull

5: Same as 4 but with an other logo (with no animation) -> rendering crashed

6: Main video, intro and ending title the second logo (PNG) (not animated) -> rendering crashed

7: Same as 6 but the logo is in .BMP format -> random crashing during rendering

@Kogoro Hi, how did you rotate the logo?

@Kogoro Hi, how did you rotate the logo?

A transition effect from vegas.

Note it not crash if i dont have all things on my project like that (It also not crash with full project on small interview of 15m) it crashing also if i just put simple logo without rotation that make it's not the cause of the crash:

3: with the Main video and the animated logo -> Rendering sucessfull

4: same as 3 but with intro and ending title -> Rendering sucessfull

@Kogoro what I have been noticing while the project renders, Vegas is using more and more RAM as the rendering continues. It's so far, RAM usage has reached a peak of 12.8GB for the project. It started way less at the beginning of Rendering. CPU usage still around 40%, while the GPU is still churning away at 100% or upper 90% range.

I am at only 35% complete rendering. I am curious as to why RAM usage has increased, and what happens when you run out.

@Kogoro @Reyfox Hi n thanks, i understand that the rotating logo isn't the issue 👍 but to play with this i wanted to know how you did it 👍

I added a vid that had been created by Vegas Magix AVC 4k,

I created a spinning white disc .veg

& added a simple png image, boy n girl on sledge,

While playing it struggled to get full fps, & RAM kept climbing

starting render released that RAM

This whole project is 1.40mins long but at the mo it's showing 36mins to completion,

I know this is prob no help, i'm just sharing , but i've never seen my RAM go up like that when there are no added fx's & 36mins is way too long 😒

@Former user the project I am rendering, RAM is creeping over 14.5GB and I am at 90% rendered.

I am wondering "why?" this is happening.

Ok... the render has completed. RAM is at 13GB, disk accessing is still happening. even though while rendering, the disk was being accessed. Project was rendered Magix AVC/AAC MP4, UHD 2150P 50fps (AMD VCE).

No crashes. Video played back without any problems. My biggest take from this is that RAM is still at 13GB and Vegas is doing nothing. Choosing to File>New, RAM is still at 6.7GB. Exiting and restarting Vegas with a blank project, RAM is down to 792MB. So why when you decide to start a new project, is the RAM not released....

@Reyfox yeah in a different thread using TV Simulator my RAM went high 128GB, only closing Vegas cleared it,

This is a new update 643 & i haven't had much time to experiment, so a lot of this is for me,

just been out & left Vegas rendering that project above, 36mins to render with the png static image, 1.40mins AVC clip & the spinning disc .veg,

So just as a comparison i rendered the spinning disc .veg. separately as Magic YUV to keep the alpha - 0.58secs to do that,

added it in a new project with the 1.40min clip & the static png, 1.14min to render that whole thing with no strange behaviour of RAM, CPU or GPU, that's good for me as i very rarely add a .veg to my timeline, but i gather many people do 🤷‍♂️👍👍

@Kogoro yeah... surely the project would be too much. The project I am working on is 50P 4K 420 8bit with transitions, color correcting, and Smartsound music.

 

@Reyfox Is 'color correcting' just Vegas's Color Corrector? & what transitions?

Just a quick one, i added Color Corrector random 3D transitions to that AVC clip, render & playback was fine, no increase in RAM

@Former user, to make things interesting, I used a variety of transitions from Boris FX, Vitascene Pro 3, and tossed in some GL transitions. I would use SeMW Auto Level and Boris FX BCC Levels Gamma. I also left some clips alone.

@Reyfox I does somes test, i have also checked the box "Run as administrator" on Vegas 19, it seem help to not always crashing but not resolve the problems when rendering.

I have sucessfull rendering a full project but... something is always wrong with Vegas 19.

If i try to render the original project from V18 or the older V19 build. it crash. If i make a new one, i was able to render, BUT, only with a certain track order, yeah it's very strange. look at this two picture, exacly same project, the first have the animated logo at the first track and the non animated logo at the second track. I have tested, 3 time, render sucessfull. If i swap the position of the track of the animated and non animated, it crash totally random for no reason during render. But in all case, it isnt normal. my Vegas V18 is not launch in Admin mode and it worked well, i can also swap the track that make crash Vegas 19 and have no problems on V18... I never have all theses problems with older version from V12 to V18. The error message is alway "KERNELBASE.dll" but how can be a WINDOWS error than i just "SWAP" a track that nonsense ^^' Is like the SKIDATA system at my job that telling is the coin validator is faultly and in reality is the bill to bill unit even if the error message tel is Coin validator. i never thrust 100% error message, same on windows, somes error is not proprelly related.

@Former user Yeah, making a rotation even on a logo make huge time to render ^^ In fact, on V19 is a little more quick than V18

I have been going crazy over V19Pro crashing since I bought it. Really really disappointed. V16 was working fine but I was moving onto more h.265 sources so hoped this would help.

So many Untrapped exceptions.

Read a post https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-19-constantly-crashing--135047/

Moved all the files in C:\Users\#my name%\AppData\Local\VEGAS Pro\19.0 into a temp directory and tried again.

So far it's all good. 50 min project rendered.

Sharing here because I took ages to find this solution. Hope it helps others.

Hello,

I have updated to the new V20 version, no problems or crashing anymore like i have explained on my post. It seem Magix have fixed that problem in V20, all V19 gived me this error. Happy to use the new version without raging because not working proprely XD