VEGAS Pro 21 build 300 audio tracks are not loaded

Harons wrote on 4/16/2024, 1:49 PM


 

Good afternoon, the new build 300 update was released on April 10th! which is very unstable! I have already written to tech support, but I have not received a response, I hope they will help me here! I record videos through obs when I upload 30 hours of vegas material, for some reason the audio tracks are not all loaded "The sound itself is there, they are not visually shown screenshot 2" I have a license in the steam and I have no way to roll back the program to the old build, because the developers did not take care of such an opportunity... 

English is not my native language, I translated it through a translator

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Harons wrote on 4/16/2024, 1:52 PM


I thought that the problem was in the sfk files, deleting them so that the project would load again, nothing changed

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Harons wrote on 4/16/2024, 1:54 PM


A friend also complained that the sound files are not visually loaded
 

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RogerS wrote on 4/16/2024, 7:47 PM

What is the media? Please share MediaInfo. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

I don't see your OBS audio settings.

For a possible workaround if you check "enable legacy AVC decoding" in options/preferences/ file io?

Harons wrote on 4/16/2024, 9:54 PM

What is the media? Please share MediaInfo. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

I don't see your OBS audio settings.

For a possible workaround if you check "enable legacy AVC decoding" in options/preferences/ file io?

General
Complete name                            : D:\video2024-04-07 20-13-29.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 2.39 GiB
Duration                                 : 4 min 59 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 68.4 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Writing application                      : Lavf60.16.100

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=60
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 4 min 59 s
Source duration                          : 4 min 59 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 68.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 2 560 pixels
Height                                   : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.307
Stream size                              : 2.28 GiB (95%)
Source stream size                       : 2.37 GiB (99%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
mdhd_Duration                            : 299867
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 4 min 59 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 164 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 5.87 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : Track2
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 4 min 59 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 51.4 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 160 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 1.84 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : Track3
Default                                  : No
Alternate group                          : 1

Audio #3
ID                                       : 4
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 4 min 59 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 160 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 5.72 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : Track4
Default                                  : No
Alternate group                          : 1

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Harons wrote on 4/16/2024, 9:59 PM

What is the media? Please share MediaInfo. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

I don't see your OBS audio settings.

For a possible workaround if you check "enable legacy AVC decoding" in options/preferences/ file io?




"AVC decoding" The checkmark is worth it
Before the update, everything worked without problems

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SSD: 2000 GB M.2 ADATA LEGEND 960 MAX
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Harons wrote on 4/16/2024, 10:01 PM

What is the media? Please share MediaInfo. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

I don't see your OBS audio settings.

For a possible workaround if you check "enable legacy AVC decoding" in options/preferences/ file io?


Operating system - Windows 11 Pro
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D Processor
Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX motherboard
RAM ADATA XPG Lancer 64 Gb DDR5 6000MHz
Video card - Palit GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GameRock Classic
Power Supply - Seasonic Focus GX-850 80+ Gold
Dropsy - NZXT Kraken X73
Housing - LIAN LI O11D Dynamic Evo
SSD: 2000 GB M.2 ADATA LEGEND 960 MAX
SSD - 500 GB M.2 Samsung 970 EVO

RogerS wrote on 4/16/2024, 10:21 PM

So it's 1440p60 AVC in a MP4 container with 3 AAC 48khz streams.

Did "legacy AVC" make it work correctly? That enables the older decoder that VP 21.208 and previous versions used. There are many reports of incompatibilities with the new decoder introduced in build 300. We can add this one to the list.

 

Harons wrote on 4/16/2024, 10:35 PM

So it's 1440p60 AVC in a MP4 container with 3 AAC 48khz streams.

Did "legacy AVC" make it work correctly? That enables the older decoder that VP 21.208 and previous versions used. There are many reports of incompatibilities with the new decoder introduced in build 300. We can add this one to the list.

 

I stop understanding vegas! due to the fact that the sound did not sink, I had to mount in version 18 and now to check what you wrote, I cleaned up the project and you know what? last time at 7 o'clock, the sound did not load visually

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Harons wrote on 4/16/2024, 10:37 PM

So it's 1440p60 AVC in a MP4 container with 3 AAC 48khz streams.

Did "legacy AVC" make it work correctly? That enables the older decoder that VP 21.208 and previous versions used. There are many reports of incompatibilities with the new decoder introduced in build 300. We can add this one to the list.

 




And now he's started to dive, even though I didn't change anything in the vegas settings! I do not know how to comment on this, maybe it has something to do with the fact that I download version 18 ?

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RogerS wrote on 4/16/2024, 10:51 PM

It's a little hard to understand this writing. For translation maybe try DeepL?

So the problem is that while all the media loads there are no preview of the waveform?

Downloading 18 doesn't directly affect 21 in any way.

It does take some time for VEGAS to read the files and create these waveform previews. Did you wait long enough with 300?

The other possibility is that 18 created the sfk waveform files and 21 is just reading them now.

Harons wrote on 4/16/2024, 11:00 PM

It's a little hard to understand this writing. For translation maybe try DeepL?

So the problem is that while all the media loads there are no preview of the waveform?

Downloading 18 doesn't directly affect 21 in any way.

It does take some time for VEGAS to read the files and create these waveform previews. Did you wait long enough with 300?

The other possibility is that 18 created the sfk waveform files and 21 is just reading them now.



Yeah, funny fact. this time, I started not downloading sound at all in other places

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SSD - 500 GB M.2 Samsung 970 EVO

Harons wrote on 4/16/2024, 11:02 PM

It's a little hard to understand this writing. For translation maybe try DeepL?

So the problem is that while all the media loads there are no preview of the waveform?

Downloading 18 doesn't directly affect 21 in any way.

It does take some time for VEGAS to read the files and create these waveform previews. Did you wait long enough with 300?

The other possibility is that 18 created the sfk waveform files and 21 is just reading them now.




see, visually the sound has not loaded on the track, but if I run the previews, the sound itself is there!

Operating system - Windows 11 Pro
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Power Supply - Seasonic Focus GX-850 80+ Gold
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SSD: 2000 GB M.2 ADATA LEGEND 960 MAX
SSD - 500 GB M.2 Samsung 970 EVO

RogerS wrote on 4/16/2024, 11:05 PM

Yes, the sound is there but the preview waveform is not.

That waveform is stored in the sfk file.

21 has new preferences for sfk files including not making them at all (some people don't care about seeing the sound waveform).

You can also "rebuild audio peaks" in the preferences if that helps.

Harons wrote on 4/16/2024, 11:06 PM

It's a little hard to understand this writing. For translation maybe try DeepL?

So the problem is that while all the media loads there are no preview of the waveform?

Downloading 18 doesn't directly affect 21 in any way.

It does take some time for VEGAS to read the files and create these waveform previews. Did you wait long enough with 300?

The other possibility is that 18 created the sfk waveform files and 21 is just reading them now.




To answer the file upload question, it was 450\1000 and abruptly stopped

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Harons wrote on 4/16/2024, 11:15 PM

Yes, the sound is there but the preview waveform is not.

That waveform is stored in the sfk file.

21 has new preferences for sfk files including not making them at all (some people don't care about seeing the sound waveform).

You can also "rebuild audio peaks" in the preferences if that helps.

So, I clicked View - > Rebuild Audio Peaks.
 The sound sounded new, let's see if that helps.

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Harons wrote on 4/17/2024, 3:20 PM

Yes, the sound is there but the preview waveform is not.

That waveform is stored in the sfk file.

21 has new preferences for sfk files including not making them at all (some people don't care about seeing the sound waveform).

You can also "rebuild audio peaks" in the preferences if that helps.

And so I'm with the news! 
1. "Rebuild Audio Peaks" This method didn't work. 
Only one thing helped, I unchecked "legacy AVC" and all the sounds loaded! Yay. 
But now there is another problem, as soon as I minimize Vegas, it just hangs "Not responding" In general, it is impossible to work, I need to find a way to return to the previous version 21.0.0.0.208. 
But how do I do it, I do not understand, since I vegas 21 bought in the styme! 

I do not understand why the developers do not give the opportunity to put older versions in the styme, as they did in blender

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RogerS wrote on 4/17/2024, 6:13 PM

I don't really know what is going on here but you can download all older builds from this link. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-where-can-i-download-vegas-pro-and-other-vegas-software--104782/