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Avellino wrote on 8/14/2019, 8:36 AM

Just to confirm that I did something similar to ikashiru's solution and that worked for me too.

Previous set-up Vegas Pro 16, BCC 11, Sapphire 11 - working OK. (I also had some Boris modules acquired separately outside BCC hence my set-up is slightly messier as a result, with some Boris effects sourced twice).

Vegas Pro 17 was crashing for me on startup as per similar reports from other users. I use BCC/Sapphire all the time, hence giving them up was not an option.

I wasn't keen on uninstalling/re-installing/re-activating BCC/Sapphire since I didn't want to jeopardise my operational environment with Vegas 16 working well with BCC/Sapphire.

Instead, I went to C:\Program Files\Common Files\OFX\Plugins and I inside the following folders I changed the subfolder "Content" to include an underscore "_Content". (As mentioned earlier, I had more of such folders due to my particular setup, but in essence, I changed "Content" in all the folders containing BCC/Boris/Sapphire in the folder name):

  • BCC_OFX_3DObjects.ofx.bundle
  • BCC12_OFX.ofx.bundle
  • BorisFX
  • Sapphire.ofx.bundle

I was then able to start up Vegas 17 successfully. Of course, Boris effects were not operational at this point. I then renamed back each of the folders changed earlier to their original name, one at a time. I started Vegas 17 after each rename operation, which makes it re-build the list of plugins available to it.

Maybe I could have got away with changing them back all at once, but I was keen to isolate any conflict that may still remain in place and I wanted to avoid "overloading" Vegas with too much stuff at once.

To my surprise, when I restored all folders back to the original names Vegas 17 still started OK and it is now fully operational. The BCC/Sapphire effects are available, so all is well. It is entirely possible that some effects may not actually work, but I can live with that. I tried many of the ones I use frequently and they are OK.

The status now:

  • Vegas 16 works fully with all BCC/Sapphire effects as before.
  • Vegas 17 works fully with most (maybe all) BCC/Sapphire effects and it can do all the marvelous new things that I bought it for.

There is the debate on who should then fix this Vegas or BorisFX. Some argue that BorixFX may not be fully compliant with the OFX standard, causing Vegas 17 to crash on startup. If so, there's merit in the assumption that Boris should fix their old versions to make them compatible and let's hope they do so. Even then, it would be highly desirable for Magix to write the code that scans for plugins more defensively to survive a dodgy plug-in. Music software (e.g. Cubase) seems to be able to deal with this situation admirably by "blacklisting" non-compliant plug-ins (you can see them in a list once the application starts up) rather than just throw its hands in the air. Scanning plugins on start-up is not time-critical, hence it can be a tad slower as a price for being crash-safe.

 

AlanMintaka wrote on 8/14/2019, 10:52 PM

So my work around for this was simply to do this:

Go to: C:\Program Files\BorisFX\ContinuumOFX\11\lib

Rename "Continuum_OFX_8Bit.DLL" to "Continuum_OFX_8Bit.txt"

Load vegas, and you're in! THe Majority of BCC effects from Vegas 16 still work.

Hope this helps some equally frustrated people! Andy

Just to add, you can rename the plugin to .DLL after you have loaded Vegas 17 once and it starts up fine from then onwards. A.

That solution worked for me. DLL file has now been renamed back to Continuum_OFX_8Bit.DLL and VP17 still starts without crashing. Nice thing is that I didn't have to touch the Boris FX installation.

BUT - during the VP17 program launches and restarts, I discovered another "feature" of the upgrade: it has the same memory-resident problem that VP 16.424 has. That is, after you exit VP17, it stays in memory. If you then try to restart it without first killing the memory-resident process, VP17 hangs during "Initializing UI....."

Guess I'll be heading over to the existing thread "Vegas Remains In Memory? Like a Bad Smell...." now....

rkm82 wrote on 8/16/2019, 2:10 PM

Same issue here - Threadripper 1920x - crashing on load, after deinstallation of Boris it works.

Stephen-Longo wrote on 8/16/2019, 5:17 PM

I was able to resolve it the easiest way by doing this:
1. rename the file extension dll to bak C:\Program Files\BorisFX\ContinuumOFX\11\lib\Continuum_OFX_8Bit.dll

2. start Vegas Pro 17 and when loaded, quit the program

3. restore the file extension to dll from bak and start Vegas Pro 17

4. Problem resolved!

Stephen-Longo wrote on 8/16/2019, 5:24 PM

Same problem with a twist. I uninstalled BCC but Vegas 17 still does not load. You guys are lucky. I have open tickets with Boris and Magix to resolve the issue. Vegas 16 continues to work fine for me.

update: Boris tech support identified the conflict and eliminated the Continuum error. Go to:

C:\Program Files\Common Files\OFX\Plugins

Delete BCC folder. Done. Error gone.

However, Vegas still crashes on start-up. The error occurs right at "initializing VSTplugins". So far Magix/Vegas have been unresponsive to my support ticket on this issue. I have to say, Boris support was outstanding. Magix not so much.

So my work around for this was simply to do this:

Go to: C:\Program Files\BorisFX\ContinuumOFX\11\lib

Rename "Continuum_OFX_8Bit.DLL" to "Continuum_OFX_8Bit.txt"

Load vegas, and you're in! THe Majority of BCC effects from Vegas 16 still work.

Hope this helps some equally frustrated people! Andy

You can rename it back after Vegas Pro program runs and then exits.

warpedjoe wrote on 8/26/2019, 7:37 PM

Following these instructions, we got it working. Even applied the trick of renaming back to *.dll and it works. Somebody needs to get their hands slapped with a ruler for letting something as insignificant as this keep it from starting up - probably some error in an XML file that they forgot to correct. You can tell they have no connection with German quality - AKA Volkswagen, Audi or Mercedes-Benz.

Greg-Kintz wrote on 9/14/2019, 2:57 AM

This hack fixed it for me. Had just loaded the trial version of V17 and it was a dead stick before hand.

NickHope wrote on 9/24/2019, 12:10 AM

The VEGAS Pro 17 Update 1 (build 321) release notes state:

"No longer crash upon attempting to load older, unsupported Boris Continuum plug-ins"

Darren_Powell wrote on 12/20/2019, 6:48 PM

Hi there,

Yes, I just went through an interesting procedure this morning while installing update 2 of Build 353, 'Vegas couldn't start because of some missing BORIS Red thing', I didn't bother noting the exact error messages because I just decided I'd fix it seeing as I need to get back to work, and then I noticed that there was a similar issue mentioned in one of the other forums from a user of Platinum? I think it was dating back to 2017. So if you want to actually see the error messages, just do a search for BORIS Red on the forum here and you'll see the same issue that I had.

Anyway, solution! I've never had BORIS Red installed on any of my machines ever, but I have had an install of BORIS Continuum Complete (BCC) since, geez, since the Dead Sea was alive, so it was obviously just the latest iteration of Vegas having a bit of a dummy spit over some old plugin or whatever! So yeh, I've never really used BCC that much anyway, so best thing to do is just uninstall all of that, clean up the registry a bit because there's always leftover 'registry droppings' when you do an uninstall, had a quick look in the C:\Program Files\Common Files\OFX\Plugins directory, and sure enough, BORIS (dumb BORIS!!) had left behind some remnants of various BCC directories with bits and pieces in them, so yeh, just deleted anything that looked BORRISEY, and restarted VEGAS PRO.

It's booted up past the previous problem, but I've just noticed that VEGAS is now hanging trying to load a HALion Sonic.dll (which is one of my Steinberg Cubase 9 shared VST plugin diddly-what'sits) so yeh, I'll have to move that out of the shared VST folder for the moment, get VEGAS going again, then make sure VEGAS doesn't go looking for that VST in future (in Preferences of course you can map which VST's you want VEGAS to be able to access, like the Ozone Audio FX VST's which are nice for voiceovers etc) but you don't really need VEGAS to be able to play the piano for example, so I'll just move HALion Sonic so I can get VEGAS going again.

Blah blah blah.

Have fun!

Cheers,

Darren