Vegas with new computer - how to optimize?

JHendrix wrote on 9/8/2023, 6:48 PM

13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900K   3.00 GHz

64.0 GB

NVIDEA Geforce RTX 4080

Vegas Pro 12 (yeah it is old but I upgraded a year ago had issues and went back to this for now)

 

I thought my timeline playback would be better with this new computer?? It is OK but cant use preview "full" without lag in intensive sections. Seems close to performance I had on previous (average spec mac with bootcamp)

 

any way to fine tune it to be better?

 

 

Comments

RogerS wrote on 9/8/2023, 7:03 PM

You need a modern version of VEGAS that actually uses the GPU.

Otherwise create proxy files or convert to easier to edit formats. The conversion will go faster with the new CPU.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

JHendrix wrote on 9/8/2023, 8:08 PM

just looked back at earlier support ticket

 vegas 18

"will not open older vegas projects" e.g. 12

got refund

assuming it would be the same now

JHendrix wrote on 9/8/2023, 8:12 PM

also GPU. card selected in prefs...you are saying now it is different?

RogerS wrote on 9/8/2023, 9:33 PM

VP 18 or 21 will open older VEGAS projects. A user here went from 5 to 21. I have a number of VP 12 projects that I finished in later versions. If there were Fx applied that you no longer have then you might need to render out those parts in 12 or remove them to have it work as you want in 21.

Yes, I'm saying VP 12 had limited support for GPUs in preferences/ video. VP 15+ adds GPU media decoding and support for GPU-encoding capabilities as well. Newer versions also use it for 32-bit and raw video processing as well. Many of the Fx are now GPU accelerated, too.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

RogerS wrote on 9/8/2023, 9:54 PM

Yes, try to reinstall those and errors should go away. VEGAS has built in LUT loaders (Fx and color grading panel) so you wouldn't need that except for legacy projects.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

JHendrix wrote on 9/8/2023, 10:05 PM

got it...I have 12 full version (not sure what it was called) what is equivalent now?

VEGAS Pro Edit

VEGAS Pro Suite

VEGAS Pro Post

Former user wrote on 9/8/2023, 10:53 PM

@JHendrix Hi, Vegas Edit has the main program, VEGAS Pro Suite has the main program + some extras & VEGAS Pro Post again has the main program & some more extras,

If I was you I would choose VEGAS Pro Suite or VEGAS Pro Post because the added Mocha Vegas is very good & well worth the little extra price.

Product comparison is here - https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/product-comparison/#productMenu

Adis-a wrote on 9/9/2023, 6:29 AM

on this new system only thing vegas says is missing right now is

{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:com.digitalanarchy.FlickerFreak}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}

i could try to update those plugins. everything else i used is stock
 

Don't need that 3rd party LUT loader anymore, it comes as stock with Vegas now:

 

also as part of color grading plugin:

 

RogerS wrote on 9/9/2023, 7:04 AM

on this new system only thing vegas says is missing right now is

{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:com.digitalanarchy.FlickerFreak}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}
{Svfx:visioncolor.lut}

i could try to update those plugins. everything else i used is stock
 

Don't need that 3rd party LUT loader anymore, it comes as stock with Vegas now:

 

also as part of color grading plugin:

 

You do need it in VP 21 if your VP 12-era projects reference this Fx and you don't feel like re-adding a LUT to every event or piece of media.

Last changed by RogerS on 9/9/2023, 11:40 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Adis-a wrote on 9/9/2023, 10:57 AM

Thought @JHendrix is upgrading to VP21... :)

JHendrix wrote on 9/9/2023, 11:05 AM

@JHendrix Hi, Vegas Edit has the main program, VEGAS Pro Suite has the main program + some extras & VEGAS Pro Post again has the main program & some more extras,

If I was you I would choose VEGAS Pro Suite or VEGAS Pro Post because the added Mocha Vegas is very good & well worth the little extra price.

Product comparison is here - https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/product-comparison/#productMenu

somewhat confusing, looks like addon software in other versions? anyone know if enrty level is the sam as v12? for now dont need addons beyond what v12 has

RogerS wrote on 9/9/2023, 11:40 AM

VEGAS Pro the editing software is the same as VEGAS Pro 12 was. The Edit suite gives you that and nothing else.

Do you want the ability to track moving objects (for example to only color correct a person and not the background, to composite, etc.?) Mocha is excellent for that and it comes in the Pro Suite. Primatte Studio is for removing green screens. The other tools are for audio.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

JHendrix wrote on 9/13/2023, 11:42 PM

Do you know if I can safely run the latest demo to test it and it wont effect V12 install?

RogerS wrote on 9/14/2023, 12:01 AM

Of course.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

JHendrix wrote on 9/17/2023, 11:00 PM

tried to open v12 project in new trail version of vegas and say unsupported format - wont open

RogerS wrote on 9/18/2023, 4:35 AM

You tried the veg file?

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

jetdv wrote on 9/18/2023, 7:33 AM

@JHendrix, can you post the VEG file?

JHendrix wrote on 9/18/2023, 10:39 AM

you mean post it with no media in it?

RogerS wrote on 9/18/2023, 11:05 AM

Yes, that's right

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

jetdv wrote on 9/18/2023, 11:10 AM

you mean post it with no media in it?


@JHendrix yes. Just the VEG file.

jetdv wrote on 9/18/2023, 12:37 PM

After telling it to "ignore missing media", it opened just fine in VEGAS Pro 21 with no further error messages.

JHendrix wrote on 9/18/2023, 12:42 PM

RogerS wrote on 9/18/2023, 12:44 PM

It opens without issue here in VP 21.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7