Vegas Won't Render on Timeline but PPro Will.

Film_Digital wrote on 12/16/2018, 9:54 PM

Got cheapie trail cam that claims to shoot short avi clips. Putting one of the on V16 (or V13) timeline = blank frames. Premier Pro however renders on its timeline. One of these files can be seen at: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AgtB2u25sm0ZhpsYBRBryW2dAfOOuw The mediainfo is:

General
Complete name                            : E:\Cull\8\DSCF0001.AVI
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 29.6 MiB
Duration                                 : 10 s 0 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 24.8 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : JPEG
Codec ID                                 : MJPG
Duration                                 : 10 s 0 ms
Bit rate                                 : 24.6 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 30.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.888
Stream size                              : 29.3 MiB (99%)

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 10 s 0 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
Sampling rate                            : 16.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 313 KiB (1%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 200 ms (6.00 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration             : 200 ms

Have tried all interleave combos; no joy. These files do convert also and that is my current workaround so mostly curious as to why the avidll is a bit deficient.

Comments

zdogg wrote on 12/16/2018, 10:38 PM

You can render a segment of the project to the timeline, what's the difference? under "tools" menu I believe

Chief24 wrote on 12/16/2018, 10:40 PM

I just downloaded your file and tried within Movie Studio Plat. Ste. 15 (bld.157), and the original did the same for me as you observed, a blank "preview". Then, I did a quick convert in Handbrake to an .mp4 format, brought it back in, and was able to view your footage within the preview screen.

I'd try the convert in Handbrake for a couple of your clips, before trying something else. I'm sure one of the "gurus" here on the forum may have an explanation as to why it is not playing that particular "Sony Motion JPEG" file (at least that is what I saw during the download of the file and it opened within Win 10 Video player - dangnabbit - probably because it was off of OneDrive?).

john_dennis wrote on 12/17/2018, 1:15 AM

I tried installing the Mainconcept MJPEG codec trial as I've done in the past for an ancient camera that used the MJPEG codec but it didn't work for this video. I was able to get it on the timeline and visible losslessly and quickly using the Happy Otter Import Assist Script. It was announced here.

I didn't need that big of a hammer, though.

Film_Digital wrote on 12/18/2018, 8:15 PM

@Chief24 Thanks for verifying that I didn't miss something! No, I don't think OneDrive has anything to do with...my experience suggests the files are generally playable which kind of adds to the mystery.

@john_dennis Thanks for the interesting find vis a vis Otter. It is nice to be able to use the "raw" file. I should have noted that it is an old (CS6) version of PPro that does work; maybe not surprising since maybe the older the better!

NickHope wrote on 12/19/2018, 12:49 PM

This discussion is about the same format as yours, or near enough.

The conclusion is that it may well open correctly if you have the Morgan M-JPEG codec installed. It's 20 Euros, but there is a free trial.

Otherwise listen to John 👆 (and note that he has the Cineform codecs installed to use the format that he chooses in his Import Assist demo).

kplo wrote on 12/19/2018, 1:08 PM

I used Virtual Dub to "re-wrap" an avi file from a time lapse camera for use in Vegas. It's free and may work for you.

Ken