Very slow rendering with Vegas Pro 19

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kaylaalg wrote on 5/13/2022, 4:30 PM

@xcxz-a I tried Resolve about 2 months ago, but I consistently had this issue where one singular frame every few seconds in the entire video file would show a "Media Offline" red image. I tried so much troubleshooting to fix that after reading so many forum posts and watching YouTube videos that claimed to be able to fix it. Unfortunately, their tips and tricks just didn't work for me. I gave up on Resolve at that point.

Gid wrote on 5/13/2022, 5:00 PM

@kaylaalg I was just adding feathering because it was mentioned earlier & at that time i didn't now how you had added blur, so for my tests i had to keep some consistency 👍

 I've used MEP since 2004, it's cheap enough for me just to keep upgrading each yr, a couple of yrs ago it got a ne Infusion Engine which made it work a huge amount better, there's a trial version but i think the max length export is 2mins .

I make vids for YT & wanted to mask the no' plate of my van, but manually tracking a mask/blur is a time consuming boring task, so I got Boris Mocha Pro but to use that i had to buy better software than MEP, Vegas is 'similar' like i say,

I still use MEP to make my simple videos, they're just the cut/trimmed clips with a 12frame crossfade between each, you can add the same crossfade to All or All after the cursor & control the length

You know as you mentioned above, after a night of editing, you just want to render, watch that rendered clip just to check it's alright with no mistakes, then get it uploaded, For me i can set MEP to render (export) a 25min 4k project, go make a cuppa, the render is done by the time i come back in about 6-8mins, i can sit down with my cuppa n watch the video before uploading to YT, if there's any mistakes it's not a huge amount of time to correct it & render again, Vegas takes about 18mins for that 25min 4k project, so now i use Vegas as more of an effects software, it'll do stuff MEP won't & all my Boris plugins work better in Vegas,

I created a 1min clip of your video & tried a dozen fxs, most rendered in about 0.55secs

these were the best

Defocus 0.43
Gaussian 0.26
Pixelate 0.25
Linear blur 0.26
 

 

Last changed by Gid on 5/13/2022, 5:04 PM, changed a total of 2 times.

Vegas Pro 19 (Latest build), HitFilm Pro,  
Boris Continuum, Sapphire, Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, Optics,
TurboCAD Platinum 2021
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
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RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(Windows & programs on one, temp project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 mounted Fans
2 x Seagate IronWolf 12TB NAS Hard Drives for file storage.

I'm 53, I've been a UK joiner for 37yrs, apprentice trained & time served, I make videos about my work & post them on Youtube so that i can share what I've learnt over the yrs,
https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G
 

kaylaalg wrote on 5/13/2022, 5:05 PM

@Gid Amazing, thank you.

Gid wrote on 5/13/2022, 5:20 PM

@kaylaalg 👍😊

 

Vegas Pro 19 (Latest build), HitFilm Pro,  
Boris Continuum, Sapphire, Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, Optics,
TurboCAD Platinum 2021
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 3.5GHz 32 Core
Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(Windows & programs on one, temp project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 mounted Fans
2 x Seagate IronWolf 12TB NAS Hard Drives for file storage.

I'm 53, I've been a UK joiner for 37yrs, apprentice trained & time served, I make videos about my work & post them on Youtube so that i can share what I've learnt over the yrs,
https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G
 

xcxz-a wrote on 5/13/2022, 9:47 PM

@Gid @kaylaalg Resolve is the perfect marriage of Vegas and MEP, even better! Resolve has better Boris FX compatibility than Vegas, with Boris FX running smoother and less restrictive on Resolve. Boris FX has also produced more tutorials for Resolve. Resolve Studio has better preview fluency and render speed than MEP, with higher hardware utilization. That's definitely a good choice for you guys. Please give it a further exploration!

kaylaalg wrote on 5/13/2022, 9:51 PM

@xcxz-a Why are you in a Vegas Pro forum trying to get people on DaVinci Resolve? As I described earlier in this thread, I already tried Resolve a couple months ago and it did not work for me.

xcxz-a wrote on 5/13/2022, 10:06 PM

As I described earlier in this thread, I already tried Resolve a couple months ago and it did not work for me.

As long as you figure out a way to get over that hurdle, you can have everything you want. And it's free so therefore, it can be an auxiliary tool of Vegas without any business competition.

Gid wrote on 5/13/2022, 10:29 PM

@xcxz-a Got Resolve, don't like the timeline, don't like that i can't just drag an event to create a crossfade, don't like the way the transitions are applied, don't like the tools for cutting etc.. the only reason it's still on my pc is because it's free, had it for a long time & played with it loads of times but still don't like it.

Vegas Pro 19 (Latest build), HitFilm Pro,  
Boris Continuum, Sapphire, Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, Optics,
TurboCAD Platinum 2021
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 3.5GHz 32 Core
Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(Windows & programs on one, temp project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 mounted Fans
2 x Seagate IronWolf 12TB NAS Hard Drives for file storage.

I'm 53, I've been a UK joiner for 37yrs, apprentice trained & time served, I make videos about my work & post them on Youtube so that i can share what I've learnt over the yrs,
https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G
 

xcxz-a wrote on 5/13/2022, 10:37 PM

@Gid Once you learn to use it, it will be your best Vegas aid.

todd-b wrote on 5/13/2022, 10:38 PM

@xcxz-a They are running out of GPU for the Gaussian filter. Unless somehow the filter is using too much GPU for the effect like the Vegas Noise reduction filter does, but I dont think so at this point. I may try Resolve later to check.

I wasn't sure the GPU graph was being completely honest so I just did a check using Power(watts) instead, it's a reasonably accurate alignment. When you look at the power draw remember the poster is using a 75W card

todd-b wrote on 5/14/2022, 12:06 AM

@xcxz-a In this scenario Vegas is using more 50% more GPU to achieve the same result (internal Gaussian filters)

Render speed:

Vegas - 95fps

Resolve 276fps NVENC HEVC (Free Versioin (No hardware AVC)

Resolve 356fps NVENC AVC via Voukoder (Studio version)

The free Resolve does seem to be in the same speed/efficiency category as MEP