Hello! I have been looking to switch off of Wondershare Filmora for a while now as my editing tasks have increased significantly in recent weeks. I decided to try out Vegas Pro after experiencing unresolvable issues with both Adobe Premiere and DaVinci Resolve in the past. I love how Vegas Pro feels and I picked up editing within it really quickly. However, I am experiencing very long rendering times compared to what I am used to with Filmora and I am very confused by it, especially since a couple friends of mine who also edit with Vegas Pro do not experience this mega slow rendering that I am. So I am coming here as a last-ditch effort and if I am still unable to resolve this then I will have to cancel my subscription and hopefully try and get a refund on the annual price I paid.
Most of my videos have a significant amount of cuts to them (every few seconds), with transitions, effects (to both video and audio files), and some subtitles. All of my videos are over 45 minutes long. Filmora handles exporting a 60 minute video in around an hour depending on how much editing there was.
Today I am trying to render and export a 73 minute video. There are minimal edits in this one. I have a handful of cuts, a gaussian blur effect here and there, some audio fading... it's a fairly basic edit. It takes Vegas Pro 20 minutes just to change the 0% to a 1%. I have cancelled the render before the estimated time remaining had stopped climbing, but some quick math gave me around 33 hours to render the file. The average speed I was experiencing was 2.8 FPS.
I quickly did a test to render one of my source files on its own with no edits or changes. Just a simple import and render. In Vegas Pro, it took 50 seconds to reach 1% (average speed around 18 FPS). In Filmora, it took 2 seconds to reach 1%.
I am pretty disappointed and discouraged that I have been trying out all of these higher-end editing programs and encounter issues that either hard stop me or turn me off from wanting to use it. It's my understanding that Filmora is seen as a very basic program for beginner editors, and it does lack some features that I wish I had access to.
All of my details and information are below, and I look forward to a response! Thank you in advance for your help.
VEGAS Version & Build: Version 19.0 (Build 550)
Windows Edition & Version: Windows 10 Pro N
Camera/App that created your footage: Open Broadcasting Software (OBS) - MP4 files. OBS recording settings:
I haven't tested out rendering files with different recording settings from OBS, but I have seen that MKV might be better along with adjusting the CQ level.
Your Delivery Destination: YouTube
MediaInfo Report for your source footage: This is just one of my video files that I was using in my project. I record my footage in 3840x1080. You'll see in the sample file I've provided that I record myself and my desktop screen side-by-side and then in the editing program, I import the footage twice and just crop one to me and the other to my screen. This saves a lot of time in editing, as well as space on my PC.
General Complete name : D:\Recordings\YouTube\Star Wars\The Clone Wars Series\007-009 - 102-104 - Malevolence Trilogy\103.mp4 Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : Base Media Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41) File size : 2.82 GiB Duration : 22 min 53 s Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 17.7 Mb/s Writing application : Lavf58.76.100 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L5.1 Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, Reference frames : 2 frames Codec ID : avc1 Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Duration : 22 min 53 s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 17.5 Mb/s Maximum bit rate : 120 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 3.556 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 60.000 FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.070 Stream size : 2.79 GiB (99%) Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Codec configuration box : avcC Audio #1 ID : 2 Format : AAC LC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity Codec ID : mp4a-40-2 Duration : 22 min 53 s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 20.7 kb/s Maximum bit rate : 160 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 3.39 MiB (0%) Title : Track1 Default : Yes Alternate group : 1 Audio #2 ID : 3 Format : AAC LC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity Codec ID : mp4a-40-2 Duration : 22 min 53 s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 160 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 26.2 MiB (1%) Title : Track2 Default : No Alternate group : 1 Text ID : 1-CC1 Format : EIA-608 Muxing mode : SCTE 128 / DTVCC Transport Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1 Duration : 22 min 53 s Start time (commands) : 1 s 571 ms Start time : 1 s 571 ms Bit rate mode : Constant Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%) Count of frames before first event : 125 Type of the first event : PopOn
VEGAS Pro File Properties for source footage:
General Name: 103.mp4 Folder: D:\Recordings\YouTube\Star Wars\The Clone Wars Series\007-009 - 102-104 - Malevolence Trilogy Type: AVC Size: 2.96 GB (3,030,877,027 bytes) Created: Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 00:21:40 Modified: Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 00:44:33 Accessed: Friday, May 13, 2022, 00:28:33 Attributes: Archive Streams Video: 00:22:53.450, 60.000 fps progressive, 3840x1080x32, AVC Audio 1: 00:22:53.375, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, AAC Audio 2: 00:22:53.375, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, AAC Summary [TCFM]: 7 ACID information ACID chunk: no Stretch chunk: no Stretch list: no Stretch info2: no Beat markers: no Detected beats: no Other metadata Regions/markers: no Command markers: no Media manager Media tags: no Plug-In Name: so4compoundplug.dll Folder: D:\Program Files (x86)\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug Format: AVC Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532) Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.
A Sample File: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AtdTkkTtj1A3hKhSkLsrKPotcnwNpg (this is the same file I grabbed all the above information from)
Graphics Card Model: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI (my other PC that I also tried rendering on has a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Super)
Graphics Card Driver Version: 220.127.116.119
Status of GPU acceleration of video processing: This was ON for most of my troubleshooting, but I also tried rendering it once with it OFF and it was slower.
Status of Enable Hardware Decoding for supported formats:
Render Settings: This is what came up as default with this particular option. I also set the video rendering quality to "Best" in the Project tab. During troubleshooting, I did go in and adjust the bitrates to see if that would help with the render speed. Along with the default settings shown here, I also tried 28 max/20 avg, 20 max/14 avg, and 14 max/10 avg. The rendering speed did not change.
More information about your PC:
- CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, in both PC's
- RAM: 32GB on both PC's. Main PC (most rendering attempts) - Corsair Vengeance DDR4 32GB. Other PC: ADATA RGB D60G 32GB 3600