Video Preview Lag in Vegas pro 22.0

katattack wrote on 6/2/2025, 8:44 PM

I have been trying to edit a video in Vegas Pro, but have been having troubles with Lag/stutter in the preview. (The video plays fine in other media players)

Initally I changed my video File from MKV to MP4 and it significantly changed the lag and stutters. It was almost un-editable because it would also freeze the application.

However, now as im adding in jump cuts and such, it is playing back at such a lag I cant even jump cut/edit it correctly.

Video Added as Example. ( unsure if it will upload but i made this wetransfer link: https://we.tl/t-RCyISNCGxo ) https://wetransfer.com/downloads/5ab95e00c0ebb850d613a8db2279497920250603014100/09f4151fca90354834deda18d1779f4d20250603014137/82f548?t_exp=1749174060&t_lsid=92884ccd-34a2-468d-a477-ac725500bf0e&t_network=email&t_rid=ZW1haWx8YWRyb2l0fDA5ZjFmNDQxLTkzM2YtNDcyOS04MmEyLWYwNmMxNmVmOWQ4ZA==&t_s=download_link&t_ts=1748914897

 

1. I am using Vegas Pro 22.0, legitimate version.

2. I used OBS studio to record.

Settings:

Output/base resolution: 2560x1440.
Video Encoder: NVIDIA NVENC H.264

Recording Format: MKV ( Then I used a program to make it MP4.)

Audio Encoder: FFmpeg AAC
Rate Control: Constant QP
Constant QP: 15

Keyframe Interval: 2s

Preset: P6: Slower(Better Quality)
Tuning: High Quality

Multipass mode: Two Passes ( Quarter Resolution)

Profile: High

 

3. I have AMD Radeon(TM) Graphics ( NVIDIA Geforce RTX 4070) Driver version: 32.0.15.7602

4. Windows 11, CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-core 4201 MHz, RAM: 32 GB 4800 Mhz

This is the Media info of the file:

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\celin\Videos\2025-05-24 11-46-03.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 23.6 GiB
Duration                                 : 16 min 37 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 203 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Writing application                      : Lavf58.76.100

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 16 min 37 s
Source duration                          : 16 min 37 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 203 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 16.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 2 560 pixels
Height                                   : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.918
Stream size                              : 23.6 GiB (100%)
Source stream size                       : 23.6 GiB (100%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
mdhd_Duration                            : 997150
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 16 min 37 s
Source duration                          : 16 min 37 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 288 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 34.3 MiB (0%)
Source stream size                       : 34.3 MiB (0%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1
mdhd_Duration                            : 997127

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 16 min 37 s
Source duration                          : 16 min 37 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 170 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 20.2 MiB (0%)
Source stream size                       : 20.2 MiB (0%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 2
mdhd_Duration                            : 997127

Audio #3
ID                                       : 4
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 16 min 37 s
Source duration                          : 16 min 37 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 2 271 b/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 277 KiB (0%)
Source stream size                       : 277 KiB (0%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 3
mdhd_Duration                            : 997127

File properties in the Vegas window:

General
  Name: 2025-05-24 11-46-03.mp4
  Folder: (removed this information)
  Type: AVC
  Size: 24.76 GB (25,358,219,719 bytes)
  Created: Monday, June 2, 2025, 1:52:14 PM
  Modified: Monday, June 2, 2025, 1:52:55 PM
  Accessed: Monday, June 2, 2025, 6:42:39 PM
  Attributes: Archive

Media information
  Stream format: MPEG-4
  Video stream #1
    Video format: AVC
    Resolution: 2560 x 1440 px
    Aspect ratio: 16:9
    Color depth: 8 bit
    Frame rate: 60.000 fps
    Scan type: Progressive
    Bit rate mode: Variable
    Bit rate: 202955918 bps
  Audio stream #1
    Audio format: AAC
    Sampling rate: 48000 Hz
    Channels: 2 channels
    Bit rate mode: Constant
    Bit rate: 288000 bps
  Audio stream #2
    Audio format: AAC
    Sampling rate: 48000 Hz
    Channels: 2 channels
    Bit rate mode: Constant
    Bit rate: 288000 bps
  Audio stream #3
    Audio format: AAC
    Sampling rate: 48000 Hz
    Channels: 2 channels
    Bit rate mode: Constant
    Bit rate: 288000 bps

Streams
  Video: 00:16:37.150, 60.000 fps progressive, 2560x1440x32, AVC
  Audio 1: 00:16:37.150, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, AAC
  Audio 2: 00:16:37.150, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, AAC
  Audio 3: 00:16:37.150, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, AAC

Summary
  [TCFM]: 7

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: so4compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 22.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 22.0 (Build 250)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.



I really appreciate any help on this!

Comments

RogerS wrote on 6/2/2025, 9:06 PM

If you uncheck "legacy AVC" decoding in options/preferences/ file io does it perform better? Try disabling legacy and using the NVIDIA GPU to do the decoding.

RogerS wrote on 6/2/2025, 9:07 PM

Recording Format: MKV ( Then I used a program to make it MP4.)

Also you can use the remux feature in OBS to go straight to MP4.

katattack wrote on 6/2/2025, 9:37 PM

If you uncheck "legacy AVC" decoding in options/preferences/ file io does it perform better? Try disabling legacy and using the NVIDIA GPU to do the decoding.

Yes, I tried both and they do the same thing 🤔

katattack wrote on 6/2/2025, 9:38 PM

Recording Format: MKV ( Then I used a program to make it MP4.)

Also you can use the remux feature in OBS to go straight to MP4.

I was doing this but then it would save both files, and I'm only working with like 2TB and it fills up so fast

RogerS wrote on 6/2/2025, 10:03 PM

Are you remuxing or converting to mp4? You could remux to an external drive.

Constant QP: 15 is possibly overkill for what you are doing- would 19 give acceptable results (lower bitrates and file sizes)?

RogerS wrote on 6/2/2025, 10:07 PM

Your link is to a screen recording- can you share a link to an OBS video to see if we also have issues with playback?

Also, please keep the file io settings on the defaults for testing.

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katattack wrote on 6/3/2025, 12:25 PM

Are you remuxing or converting to mp4? You could remux to an external drive.

Constant QP: 15 is possibly overkill for what you are doing- would 19 give acceptable results (lower bitrates and file sizes)?

I WAS remuxing but with this particular file I converted it with a different program. When I remuxed it gave me 2 files, mkv and mp4. I have been thinking about investing in an external HD sooon

And I can change this QP and see if this helps me further!

katattack wrote on 6/3/2025, 12:26 PM

Your link is to a screen recording- can you share a link to an OBS video to see if we also have issues with playback?

Also, please keep the file io settings on the defaults for testing.

Yes, would you like me to screen record it in my media player? I would review these particular areas in the clip and seen no issues with playback.

Edit: I think i understand you now, you want to test it yourself.... The file itelf is 24GB and I dont know how to share a file that large?
 

3POINT wrote on 6/3/2025, 2:11 PM

 


Edit: I think i understand you now, you want to test it yourself.... The file itelf is 24GB and I dont know how to share a file that large?
 

Just record a small sample with the same OBS settings as your problem file and share that file...

On the other hand, this forum daily sees issues with wrong or not suitable for editing OBS settings. Instead of each time inventing the wheel again, it would be good to teach gameplay screengrabbers directly which OBS settings give an in Vegas editable videofile.

katattack wrote on 6/3/2025, 7:50 PM

I made a small video with the file settings as requested: https://transfer.pcloud.com/download.html?code=5Z4SXj5Z2JSmgJsq8v0ZuGYp7ZINeRjuUNCR7UngxkXYCMv0Ynia67

thank you again

RogerS wrote on 6/3/2025, 10:53 PM

Thanks for sharing that. The MKV was basically uneditable in VEGAS 22.250 and my laptop (RTX 4060 mobile).

I did a quick rewrap in ShutterEncoder and the resulting file was editable though not smooth where the video overlaps. Starting and stopping playback helped as does creating ram previews (shift + b) if there are troublesome parts.

See if a 1s keyframe interval makes it more editable.

3POINT wrote on 6/4/2025, 2:25 AM

I made a small video with the file settings as requested: https://transfer.pcloud.com/download.html?code=5Z4SXj5Z2JSmgJsq8v0ZuGYp7ZINeRjuUNCR7UngxkXYCMv0Ynia67

thank you again

I downloaded your (oversized) file and I can confirm @RogerS findings, uneditable in Vegas, but smootly editable in my other NLE's Davinci Resolve and Powerdirector. Overlapping the video hampers a little but that's IMO due to the unnecessary huge datarate.

Reyfox wrote on 6/4/2025, 1:11 PM

I couldn't play past 2 seconds in Resolve Studio 20. In VP22, lots of disk accessing. Lots. So much I gave up.

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Gid wrote on 6/4/2025, 1:37 PM

I downloaded it, it took ages to load in VP22 (248), the blue bar bottom left of UI moved at a snails pace, once fully loaded playback was crap & added cuts just made it worse, I gave up after 5mins.

PS, Free Resolve worked surprisingly well, I cut it up, swapped those parts around & trimmed some. playback was mostly smooth, there were the odd stutter on first play with one or two of the cuts but a reposition of the cursor before the cut & a second play through it was smooth.

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3POINT wrote on 6/4/2025, 2:02 PM

Strange that there seems to be a difference between Davinci Resolve free and Studio. My positive findings were also made with free Resolve.

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VEGASDerek wrote on 6/4/2025, 3:27 PM

It is possible that Resolve free is using a different decoder (CPU vs GPU?) or a proxy to play back the video.

Reyfox wrote on 6/4/2025, 3:29 PM

I got a Media error after 2 seconds of play. I'm trying to figure out why the file is so large considering it's game footage.

But I deleted all almost 8GB from my computer. It took ages in B250 and it was still accessing the disk.

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john_dennis wrote on 6/4/2025, 3:50 PM

The original .mkv file took forever to build sidecar files for audio on my Vegas Pro 22-250 timeline. I did a quick and easy rewrap of the video while converting the three audio tracks to PCM in a MOV wrapper using Shutter Encoder.

Which yielded a file with the following Mediainfo that played at full frame rate on my machine..

General
Complete name                            : \\P8Z77\Downloads\2025-06-03 17-23-58.mov
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.02 (qt  )
File size                                : 4.93 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 min 32 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 457 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
encoder                                  : Lavf61.9.108

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 1 min 32 s
Source duration                          : 1 min 32 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 452 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 16.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 2 560 pixels
Height                                   : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 58.824 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 62.500 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.045
Stream size                              : 4.88 GiB (99%)
Source stream size                       : 4.88 GiB (99%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
mdhd_Duration                            : 92716
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : sowt
Duration                                 : 1 min 32 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 17.0 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : voice
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : sowt
Duration                                 : 1 min 32 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 17.0 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : voice
Default                                  : No
Alternate group                          : 1

Audio #3
ID                                       : 4
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : sowt
Duration                                 : 1 min 32 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 17.0 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : voice
Default                                  : No
Alternate group                          : 1

 

When I corrected the Variable Frame Rate video to Constant Frame Rate (60 FPS, Speed) in Shutter Encoder while reencoding at CQ=20, the Vegas Pro timeline performance was dramatically improved.

General
Complete name                            : E:\_000\2025-06-03 17-23-58_H.264_CFR-PCM.mov
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.02 (qt  )
File size                                : 1.29 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 min 32 s
Overall bit rate                         : 120 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Encoded date                             : 2025-06-04 20:16:34 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2025-06-04 20:16:34 UTC
Writing application                      : Lavf61.9.108

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 1 min 32 s
Bit rate                                 : 114 Mb/s
Width                                    : 2 560 pixels
Height                                   : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.514
Stream size                              : 1.24 GiB (96%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 165 r3214 fe9e4a7
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=45 / lookahead_threads=7 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date                             : 2025-06-04 20:16:34 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2025-06-04 20:16:34 UTC
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : sowt
Duration                                 : 1 min 32 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 17.0 MiB (1%)
Title                                    : voice
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1
Encoded date                             : 2025-06-04 20:16:34 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2025-06-04 20:16:34 UTC

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : sowt
Duration                                 : 1 min 32 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 17.0 MiB (1%)
Title                                    : discord
Default                                  : No
Alternate group                          : 1
Encoded date                             : 2025-06-04 20:16:34 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2025-06-04 20:16:34 UTC

Audio #3
ID                                       : 4
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : sowt
Duration                                 : 1 min 32 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 17.0 MiB (1%)
Title                                    : Track4
Default                                  : No
Alternate group                          : 1
Encoded date                             : 2025-06-04 20:16:34 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2025-06-04 20:16:34 UTC

Techno-Philosophical Folderol

  • Lose the Variable Frame Rate Capture (convert after-the-fact for old recordings).
  • 452 Mbps is probably a shade high for a screen capture. This is not the Magna Carta.
  • Nothing plays smoother and loses less quality than PCM audio.
  • Don't be afraid of AVC-PCM in a MOV wrapper, it won't hurt you.
  • All of us need to find a hobby.
  • Some of us need to find a job.
katattack wrote on 6/4/2025, 7:24 PM

Thank you all so much for testing my footage.

So what would you recommend I do for my settings? Just change cQ to 20?

 

Or just edit with free resolve?

RogerS wrote on 6/4/2025, 7:34 PM

I would change the keyframe interval to 1 and increase CQ to around 20 and see if that improves things for you. Many people use OBS generated media in VEGAS.

john_dennis wrote on 6/4/2025, 8:33 PM

Try these OBS settings into an MKV wrapper.

General
Complete name                            : E:\OBS Captures\2025-06-04 18-13-56.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4
File size                                : 46.5 MiB
Duration                                 : 56 s 0 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 6 963 kb/s
Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS
Writing application                      : Lavf61.1.100
Writing library                          : Lavf61.1.100
ErrorDetectionType                       : Per level 1

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 54 s 87 ms
Bit rate                                 : 3 752 kb/s
Nominal bit rate                         : 100.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 2 560 pixels
Height                                   : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.034
Stream size                              : 24.2 MiB (52%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 164 r3106 eaa68fa

Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 
/ analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 
/ mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 
/ cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 
/ threads=45 / lookahead_threads=11 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 
/ decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 
/ bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 
/ open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=30 / keyint_min=3 / scenecut=40 
/ intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=100000 
/ ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 
/ aq=1:1.00

Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : A_PCM/INT/LIT
Duration                                 : 56 s 0 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 10.3 MiB (22%)
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : A_PCM/INT/LIT
Duration                                 : 56 s 0 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 10.3 MiB (22%)
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No


When finished recording, do an instantaneous rewrap to MOV in Shutter Encoder.

Edit in Vegas.

Report your impressions.

katattack wrote on 6/5/2025, 9:41 AM

Try these OBS settings into an MKV wrapper.

General
Complete name                            : E:\OBS Captures\2025-06-04 18-13-56.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4
File size                                : 46.5 MiB
Duration                                 : 56 s 0 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 6 963 kb/s
Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS
Writing application                      : Lavf61.1.100
Writing library                          : Lavf61.1.100
ErrorDetectionType                       : Per level 1

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 54 s 87 ms
Bit rate                                 : 3 752 kb/s
Nominal bit rate                         : 100.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 2 560 pixels
Height                                   : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.034
Stream size                              : 24.2 MiB (52%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 164 r3106 eaa68fa

Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 
/ analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 
/ mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 
/ cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 
/ threads=45 / lookahead_threads=11 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 
/ decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 
/ bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 
/ open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=30 / keyint_min=3 / scenecut=40 
/ intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=100000 
/ ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 
/ aq=1:1.00

Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : A_PCM/INT/LIT
Duration                                 : 56 s 0 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 10.3 MiB (22%)
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : A_PCM/INT/LIT
Duration                                 : 56 s 0 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 10.3 MiB (22%)
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No


When finished recording, do an instantaneous rewrap to MOV in Shutter Encoder.

Edit in Vegas.

Report your impressions.

Thank you for the video. I tried these settings and it made the video MUCH smaller, which is amazing, but no sound went into the video. Editing the clip seemed amazing and fine though.
EDIT: I changed audo to AAC and that works great.
 

katattack wrote on 6/5/2025, 9:42 AM

I would change the keyframe interval to 1 and increase CQ to around 20 and see if that improves things for you. Many people use OBS generated media in VEGAS.

I tried this with a test clip, file size much smaller which is nice, but still having the same issues when doing cuts and stuff. lagg in preview without cuts

katattack wrote on 6/5/2025, 12:15 PM

With these settings I have a few additional questions;

Is this the best Quality I can obtain? Will this upload to YT fine? Which setting is the best setting for exporting file out of vegas to YT? im going to edit this file into vegas without 're wrapping to mov' becuase i dont understand what that is or what that will do for me after

I noticed that viewing this on a media player shows less quality then what im used to seeing; but seems fine in vegas preview. is this because its just small?
since this is a custom setting it wont remux to MP4 so i would jsut edit it and then export out for YT. Im also worried that if a file corrupts, i wont be able to get it back?

thanks you again