VP15 b361 - overwriting file issue while rendering with MagixAVC | VCE

fifonik wrote on 5/28/2018, 8:09 AM

VP15, build 361

 

1. Create project, put short single 1080p fragment on timeline (I put 1080-50p, ~12 sec)

2. Render it using Magix AVC with default profile Internet HD 1080p with average bitrate 20 000 000 and encode mode -- AMC VCE Default. Name file '1.mp4'. Notice the file size and check the file's media info. In my case file size is 34.1 MB, bitrate - 21.9 Mb/s.

3. Render it (again) using the same encoder/profile/settings but average bitrate increased to 40 000 000. Name file '2.mp4'. Notice the file size and check the file's media info. The file size and media info bitrate should be noticeable bigger than in step 2. In my case file size if 64.5 MB, bitrate - 41.5 Mb/s.

4. Render it (yes, again. 3 is lucky number) using the same encoder/profile/settings as on step 2. Name file '2.mp4'. Overwrite? 'Yes'. I was expecting that 2.mp4 is overwriten and resulting file size would be the same size as 1.mp4. However, in my tests resulting file size is exactly the same as it was after step 3 (64.5 MB), but bitrate shown by media info is as for 1.mp4 (21.9 Mb/s). Also, file 2.mp4 is not played correctly.

 

Looks like AMD VCE renderer does not truncate the file correctly when overwriting.

Checked with Mainconcept AVC encode mode -- everything OK.

 

Anyone can double check?

 

P.S. Win 10 Pro 64bit 1803, graphics card RX470 (driver version 18.5.1)

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Camcorder: Panasonic X920

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X, RAM: G'Skill 16 GB DDR4 3200, Graphics card: MSI RX470 4GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO SATA 250MB, HDDs: Seagate & Toshiba 2TB, OS: Windows 10 64-bit 1903

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17

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BruceUSA wrote on 5/29/2018, 11:26 PM

VP15, build 361

 

1. Create project, put short single 1080p fragment on timeline (I put 1080-50p, ~12 sec)

2. Render it using Magix AVC with default profile Internet HD 1080p with average bitrate 20 000 000 and encode mode -- AMC VCE Default. Name file '1.mp4'. Notice the file size and check the file's media info. In my case file size is 34.1 MB, bitrate - 21.9 Mb/s.

3. Render it (again) using the same encoder/profile/settings but average bitrate increased to 40 000 000. Name file '2.mp4'. Notice the file size and check the file's media info. The file size and media info bitrate should be noticeable bigger than in step 2. In my case file size if 64.5 MB, bitrate - 41.5 Mb/s.

4. Render it (yes, again. 3 is lucky number) using the same encoder/profile/settings as on step 2. Name file '2.mp4'. Overwrite? 'Yes'. I was expecting that 2.mp4 is overwriten and resulting file size would be the same size as 1.mp4. However, in my tests resulting file size is exactly the same as it was after step 3 (64.5 MB), but bitrate shown by media info is as for 1.mp4 (21.9 Mb/s). Also, file 2.mp4 is not played correctly.

 

Looks like AMD VCE renderer does not truncate the file correctly when overwriting.

Checked with Mainconcept AVC encode mode -- everything OK.

 

Anyone can double check?

 

P.S. Win 10 Pro 64bit 1803, graphics card RX470 (driver version 18.5.1)

I just ran a test on AMD VCE 1080 30P I re-rendered twice and the file size is the same here. But AMD VCE won't let me overwrite the previously render file name. But if I render it and create a different file name, then its ok to render.

Nick Hope wrote on 5/30/2018, 5:51 AM

Please report this by submitting a support request at https://support2.magix.com/customer/en/vegas/form That's the best way to draw the developers' attention to bugs and get them into their backlog.

fifonik wrote on 5/30/2018, 6:23 AM

@BruceUSA

Have you checked that the rendered file is not locked by player, for example? Anyway, if Vegas does not allow you to overwrite existing fine while rendering with Magix AVC | AMD VCE -- this is a bug. Another one. Unfortunately, looks like it is specific to your system.

@Nick Hope

I'd like others double checked to be sure that this is not the glitch of my system.

 

Camcorder: Panasonic X920

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X, RAM: G'Skill 16 GB DDR4 3200, Graphics card: MSI RX470 4GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO SATA 250MB, HDDs: Seagate & Toshiba 2TB, OS: Windows 10 64-bit 1903

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17

BruceUSA wrote on 5/30/2018, 12:18 PM

fifonik.

The rendered file is not locked by player. MPC-HCx64, Window Media Player, Windows 10 Movies and TV player. All 3 players have no problem playing back the rendered file.

fifonik wrote on 6/1/2018, 6:21 PM

Reported: Ticket#2018053117004534

Was replied that this is known issue at this moment.

Camcorder: Panasonic X920

Desktop: MB: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM, CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X, RAM: G'Skill 16 GB DDR4 3200, Graphics card: MSI RX470 4GB, SSD: Samsung 850 EVO SATA 250MB, HDDs: Seagate & Toshiba 2TB, OS: Windows 10 64-bit 1903

NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17