@Dexcon - thanx for touching base n assisting me.

So in this current example, am I understanding correctly that VP23: a) doesn't have any render options that match iPhone 16 Pro video captured at 4K 60FPS?; and b) it is only offering audio rendering of my muted video edits?

In my earlier model iPhones, 4K video capture was always 59.94FPS but my iPhone 16 properties definitely reads 60FPS. Don't whether this matters.

When you set 'Match project video settings'; in the Render window, the render options displayed will be the templates that exactly match all the match options selected. As the resolutions of the video from both my GoPro and Samsung 23 Ultra are set to higher than 3840x2160 and neither of their resolutions exactly match any of VP23's preset render templates, no video render options appear when 'match resolutions' is checked. Both cameras are set to 25 fps so render options do display when the match resolution checkbox is unchecked.

This might also be the case with your iPhone video if either the resolution or framerate doesn't exactly match any of the preset render templates.

What you'll need to do is turn off matching, select the closest preset render template to the render settings that you want (2160p 59.94 templates are available under both AVC (H.264) and HEVC (H.265) render formats) and use the 'Customize...' button to change the framerate from 59.94 to 60.00 fps in the custom render settings window. Name the custom template as desired and save it so that you can use it again in the future.

However, please note that as I am PAL-land, I don't use NTSC frame rates (29.97, 59.94, 30, 60) so I am unsure if rendering 60 fps video to 59.94 fps makes any difference particularly when phone video is not recorded at a constant framerate (CFR) but at a variable framerate (VFR) so the real fps framerate at any point along the video's length can vary from a little to a lot.

@Dexcon

thanx for labouring with me on this … so to remove all doubt, you’re also saying VP23 isn’t capable of automatically creating a render option which matches eg first event properties dropped onto timeline?

… so to remove all doubt, you’re also saying VP23 isn’t capable of automatically creating a render option which matches eg first event properties dropped onto timeline?

I don't know a video editor which creates a render option which matches first event properties. Vegas has already the feature that it can adept the project settings according the first event properties, which is quite unique. The only render option that automatically adepts project settings into render settings I know is (was) the Voukoder classic render option for the Vegas versions before VP23.

Vp23 has render templates for most common video formats, resolutions and framerates. For different resolutions and framerates, you can manually change an existing render template and save those settings for future use.

@3POINT

Thanks for your input … will changing a template’s frame rate from 59.94 to 60 cause misalignment between video and audio within an event or the project as a whole?

@3POINT

Thanks for your input … will changing a template’s frame rate from 59.94 to 60 cause misalignment between video and audio within an event or the project as a whole?

No, changing framerate doesn't change the duration/timing.

@DWC You're sure that Vegas interprets your Iphone recordings as 60 fps and not as 59.94 fps?

@DWC  ... re "You're sure that Vegas interprets your Iphone recordings as 60 fps and not as 59.94 fps?"

A sure way to establish the iPhone's video framerate is to run a MediaInfo (a free app) report on one of the iPhone videos. Please see https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/ for information about MediaInfo as well as a link to their website to download and install.

And a detailed report will also show the minimum and maximum VFR framerates, not just the 'default' framerate.

For example my Samsung S24 recordings are interpreted as 29.970fps by Vegas, by MediaInfo and Davinci Resolve as 30fps. On the other hand I don't see a difference when render those recordings in Vegas with 29.970fps or with 30fps, as long as render settings are equal project settings.

@DWC, I also have CVS on my computer. I too would suggest you use MediaInfo to see actually what your footage is from your cellphone.

I guess I am "old school" when it comes to settings of the project and rendering. I double check to make sure everything is what it should be. And if not, change it myself. It is just as easy, and I know for sure what the rendering will be set to.

@Reyfox @3POINT @Dexcon

Mediainfo confirms 60fps with Min/Max frame rates as  54.545 / 60.000

I'm not savvy with how Min/Max frame rates might affect output. My first guess is that using a 59.94 template won't result in any noticeable rendered file? 'as long as render settings are equal project settings'

@DWC when you import your iPhone recording into Vegas, which framerate does Vegas want to set as the project framerate, 60fps or 59.94fps?

When 60fps, than you have to create manually a 60fps rendertemplate as described earlier.

When 59.94fps, than use the 59.94fps rendertemplate.

Also make sure that in project settings, the resampling mode is set to "none" and not to "optical flow".

@3POINT I had earlier created a project template to match the iPhone vids at 4K 60FPS and selected ‘Start all new projects with these settings’ so, in order to invoke what you’ve asked, I changed the default project properties to ‘HD 1080…’ then dropped an iPhone video into timeline … the preview window reads ‘60.000p’. I hope I’ve understood u correctly and applied the test properly 🤷‍♂️

Why 1080HD, your recordings are 4k?

Why 1080HD, your recordings are 4k?

ummm … coz I was checking to see whether U were paying attention 😳 or coz I’m a numpty 🙄 u pick?

but seriously…coz I thought the objective of your test was purely to see how Vegas identifies one of my iPhone videos regardless of project properties … so I’ve just reinstated my 4K 60FPS project properties template and same result a as previously reported - 60.000p

@DWC No matter when you set your project settings to whatever setting, when it differs from the setting from your first added footage into the timeline, you will get following message:

When you reply with Yes, Vegas sets the project resolution and framerate according your footage. Media resolution and framerate and project resolution and framerate are shown here:

as well as in the project settings:

@DWC Something else to be aware of. When rendering Vegas temporarily changes your project settings to match the render template settings.

@3POINT that dialogue pop-up didn’t manifest when I ran my earlier 1080p test ie 4K video dragged onto timeline didn’t trigger that option … but that prompt (change project properties to match first video) is what I’m used to seeing in VS23 … VS23 then allows a render checkbox to match project properties and/ or first video … that’s what I was hoping VP23 would do … BUT I have seen the VP23 dialogue pop-up you’ve screen grabbed in a previous session (not sure why it didn’t manifest in my most recent attempt)

ultimately I presume you’re trying to establish whether VP23 changes project properties to match my iPhone video and, if it does, whether VP23 then identifies the project properties frame rate as 60 or 59.94p - yes/ no?

I suspect I've over-cooked the post 😶if no further responses, at least award me 'upcoming village idiot' status 🙂

@RogerS thanx for buying in ... I think you've just rounded out what I was ultimately trying to ascertain ... kudos for your interpretation ✌️Preferences now updated ... 60fps template created n sample rendered file looks superb 🙂

@Dexcon @3POINT @EricLNZ @Reyfox @RogerS

big thanx gang for steering me through this 👊 rest up coz I've got a shit tonne of other newbie questions coming down range