I'm looking for a Windows application that will play 1920x1080-24p and 1920x1080-60i .avc files. I have the latest versions of Media Player and VLC media player (both of which the Microsoft Store says will play .avc files), but they don't.
I want to make sure these videos play properly before I burn them to Blu-Ray.
Thanks.
I just tried converting the .avc file to .mov and to .mp4, using VideoProc Converter. Media Player plays both .mov and .mp4 now, but there is no audio. Also, the video is running slightly faster then the original as I was creating the Multicamera Track before I rendered it to .avc. I suspect that it created a 30fps video from the 24fps file. I am certain that I had the fps settings in VideoProc Converter set to "same as source." Media Player says Frame rate is 23.976 in the Properties window.
@Al_Korzonas MPC-BE, VLC player & pretty much any other player should play AVC files. (MP4 AVC)
Post the MediaInfo of your files -
There's an App called MediaInfo, download it, it's free & a fast download with no added adverts or any of that rubbish https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo.
After downloading, right click on the media file in your Windows folder, open MediaInfo, choose Text from the options at the top, drag the edges of the window that pops up so it shows all the information & screen capture that page, post that image on here using the arrow button next to the smiley at the top of a new comment 👍
Or Copy & paste the information in a new comment like this -
General
Complete name : C:\Users\korzo\Documents\Vegas Pro Suite v22\M&J Wedding Ceremony 24fps.avc
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
File size : 7.34 GiB
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 FPS
Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 4 frames
Format settings, Slice count : 4 slices per frame
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
After conversion to .mp4:
General
Complete name : C:\Users\korzo\Documents\Vegas Pro Suite v22\M&J Wedding Ceremony 24fps.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size : 7.34 GiB
Duration : 42 min 5 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 25.0 Mb/s
Frame rate : 23.976 FPS
Title : M&J Wedding Ceremony 24fps
Performer : VideoProc Converter AI
Genre : Video
Writing application : Lavf60.3.100
Comment : M&J Wedding Ceremony 24fps
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 4 frames
Format settings, Slice count : 4 slices per frame
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 42 min 5 s
Source duration : 42 min 5 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 25.0 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.502
Stream size : 7.34 GiB (100%)
Source stream size : 7.34 GiB (100%)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : avcC
Oddly, the conversions from .avc to .mov and .mp4 took about 15 seconds. You can't even copy a 7GB file in 15 seconds, but there are now three 7GB files where there used to be one, just with different extensions.
@Al_Korzonas AVC is a codec -
AVC, or Advanced Video Coding (also known as H.264), is a standard video compression format used to reduce the size of video files while maintaining high quality
& MP4 is a Container (.MOV is also a Container), these are what codecs are 'filed' in, they're a bit like a folder..
Codec vs. container:
AVC is a video codec, or a compression/decompression standard. The term "video format" often refers to both a codec and a container (like MP4), which is the file wrapper that holds the video, audio, and other data. For example, you might see a file described as MP4 (H.264).
Someone else will be able to explain & decipher your info as It doesn't make sense to me..
I just tried converting the .avc file to .mov and to .mp4, using VideoProc Converter. Media Player plays both .mov and .mp4 now, but there is no audio
@Al_Korzonas AVC files only contain a video stream in avc format. There is no audio. You also need to export an audio stream, wav or AC3 to go with them for burning to disc.
Pot Player will play AVC files ready for use in DVD rendering.
https://potplayer.daum.net/
Checking I find that MPC-HC and MPC-BE will both play my ".avc" files but VLC Media Player doesn't.
I just tried converting the .avc file to .mov and to .mp4, using VideoProc Converter. Media Player plays both .mov and .mp4 now, but there is no audio. Also, the video is running slightly faster then the original as I was creating the Multicamera Track before I rendered it to .avc. I suspect that it created a 30fps video from the 24fps file. I am certain that I had the fps settings in VideoProc Converter set to "same as source." Media Player says Frame rate is 23.976 in the Properties window.
@Al_Korzonas I'm wondering what framerate your original recordings are, 24p or 60i?
The Vegas Pro Archivist responds:
There was a time when Vegas Pro would play elementary streams with the extension .avc if one searched for all files, *.* when opening media...
... but alas, those days appear to be gone with the demise of optical media as "a thang".
The short answer to how to preview the elementary streams prior to burning them to disc was always with the DVD/Blu-ray authoring application such as DVD Architect.
The short answer to how to preview the elementary streams prior to burning them to disc was always with the DVD/Blu-ray authoring application such as DVD Architect.
@Al_Korzonas didn't tell us which version of Vegas he's using and if he has a Disc Authoring Software, like DVD Architect for burning a Bluray. Vegas has no longer capabilities to burn Bluray's, so I'm wondering why such Bluray elementary stream rendertemplates are still available in Vegas.
@3POINT said: "I'm wondering why such Bluray elementary stream rendertemplates are still available in Vegas."
My SWAG would be that the Sony AVC/MVC render templates are licensed to Magix in perpetuity.
@john_dennis The Sony AVC/MVC render templates are no longer available in VP23.
So much for "perpetuity".
They are in my installation of V23, my guess is they are shared with V22/V21 and V20 also installed.
They are in my installation of V23, my guess is they are shared with V22/V21 and V20 also installed.
Probably I'm blind...Where are the Sony AVC/MVC rendertemplates in VP23?
I just tried converting the .avc file to .mov and to .mp4, using VideoProc Converter. Media Player plays both .mov and .mp4 now, but there is no audio. Also, the video is running slightly faster then the original as I was creating the Multicamera Track before I rendered it to .avc. I suspect that it created a 30fps video from the 24fps file. I am certain that I had the fps settings in VideoProc Converter set to "same as source." Media Player says Frame rate is 23.976 in the Properties window.
@Al_Korzonas I'm wondering what framerate your original recordings are, 24p or 60i?
They are 1920x1080-30p. Vegas Pro Suite V22 doesn't have this as an option. I've read that ppl like wedding videos to look "cinematic," so I chose 24fps, but also did 60i as a backup.
The short answer to how to preview the elementary streams prior to burning them to disc was always with the DVD/Blu-ray authoring application such as DVD Architect.
I have Architect 7.0 from a previous version of Vegas Pro. I will try that.
I just tried converting the .avc file to .mov and to .mp4, using VideoProc Converter. Media Player plays both .mov and .mp4 now, but there is no audio
@Al_Korzonas AVC files only contain a video stream in avc format. There is no audio. You also need to export an audio stream, wav or AC3 to go with them for burning to disc.
Ugh. That would explain it. I will export the audio stream and then presumably DVD Architect (as @john_dennis said) will allow me to combine the video and audio files for the preview before I burn. I will try that.
The short answer to how to preview the elementary streams prior to burning them to disc was always with the DVD/Blu-ray authoring application such as DVD Architect.
@Al_Korzonas didn't tell us which version of Vegas he's using and if he has a Disc Authoring Software, like DVD Architect for burning a Bluray. Vegas has no longer capabilities to burn Bluray's, so I'm wondering why such Bluray elementary stream rendertemplates are still available in Vegas.
I'm using Vegas Pro Suite V22, but I do have DVD Architect 7.0 (from Vegas Pro V15 maybe?).
@Al_Korzonas it's not a good idea to resample 30p to 24p. It will not make your wedding video look more "cinematic" but likely more choppy or blurred, depending on the choosen resampling mode in Vegas. To achieve a cinematic look, you should have recorded directly in 24p with a 180 degree shutter.
Other issue is that the Bluray standard only accepts progressive at 24fps or interlaced at 30fps (i60). Since you recorded progressive with 30fps, you will lose quality when going to i60.
My personal view, forget about Bluray, render to mp4 with 1080p30 (the recorded resolution and framerate) and distribute that stream by YouTube or USB.