In my 8 month old PC I had a pretty flash water-cooled Radeon Fury Card which performed fine .... for 8 months, then stopped.
It is no longer in production, and I have a credit for AU$1,200 odd to spend.
I'd love to hear what the latest developments are, and what you guys would recommend as a replacement.
- or would it be wiser to wait till VP14 hits the streets?
Thanks for any advice.
Peter
Based on a little recent research, AMD RX 480 8GB is probably the best bet. You could even get 2 of them for that budget. If by chance V14 is better with CUDA than OpenCL (highly unlikely but you never know), then NVIDIA GTX-1080 would be the place to look. I would advise waiting if you can. It may well be just 2 or 3 weeks until V14 is announced, if they do it at IBC. This is worth reading. Also bear in mind RX 490/495 are likely in the pipeline.
Thank you Nick - sounds like good advice. I have an older Nvidia card currently standing in for the failed Fury, and it's working reasonably, so no point in not waiting a little londer
This is worth reading. Also bear in mind RX 490/495 are likely in the pipeline.
Your linked discussion thread might be confusing because I believe there are now two Titan X cards under the same name... an old one and a brand new one released about the same time as the GTX-1080 and it's speed and price boggles the mind! Why they didn't change the name of the new Titan to something as simple as Titan X-10 or somesuch is a mystery... but there are a few mysteries going on a Nvidia right now, like suddenly halting manufacturing of one of the best war horse/affordable 8" tablets released in the past couple years, the Shied Tablet (Tegra K1)— my 6 mo. old Shield Tablet appears to benchmark better than Google's own brand-new Pixel C.... but I digress... I love Nvidia cards because I edit and I game... and combining a GTX card for streaming to a Shield TV (Tegra X1) is a great experience.
I can't imagine any video editing software maker not staying on top of using the best features of both AMD and Nvidia GPUs.
Interesting Bradford. My gaming adventures are largely confined to Solitaire, but it behoves us as video editors to stay in touch with what's out there. The thing I'm never sure about is - ok, the development of graphics cards is centred around all these weird 3D games, but does that automatically mean that the best for gaming is also good for us - or could it be that some features developed for gaming are detrimental to video editing?
I've wondered that myself Peter... Vegas provides a 3D space that should greatly benefit from evolving gaming cards—especially Nvidia GTX not to mention preview/render improvements... think back awhile to when Quadro was a top video editor choice and Sony supported it very nicely. Nvidia merged much of that tech into their newer gaming cards and I had a Quadro 2000 (?) at one point which amazed me with it's speed in Vegas (10?)... but when I first installed the GTX 970 with VP13 and a next-gen i7 chip it was appreciably even better at a much lower cost... then Nvidia worked hard to keep up with Win10 upgrades which I've been very happy with but Sony simply stopped supporting it. At one point Sony had a notice on their site about GTX support that basically boiled down to "Tough Titties"...I don't know.
Since it's out of Sony's hands now, MAGIX can either make me happy again or I'll sign-up for Premier courses on Lynda and Udemy. The problem is Adobe's creative suite is so huge with so many possibilities that it overkills my brain and exceeds my more basic needs and their subscription model now costs more than the latest GoPro camera (per year.) That's why I liked the simplicity of Vegas all along I could skip a version here or there but know that I own a permanent license. But without acceleration, it becomes a matter of thowing good money after bad software support. And if MAGIX is considering adopting a subscription plan, then I will HAVE to choose Adobe.
And not all video games are weird... check out Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed franchise... I personally find it immersive and educational as well as relaxing. If a game as beautiful and massive as AC:Syndicate performs as fantastic as it does on my GTX970, then I would expect that it should handle speeding up video editing platforms with finesse and ease—as demonstrated by Premier. Would if I could afford the NEW Titan X with full Vegas Nvidia GPU acceleration support.
As I wrote in my other thead, GTX 1080 (which I admit I bought MAINLY with Resolve in mind) also works fabulously with Vegas Pro 13.
Piotr
As I wrote in my other thead, GTX 1080 (which I admit I bought MAINLY with Resolve in mind) also works fabulously with Vegas Pro 13.
Piotr
Piotr, what's your PC build? Are you running Windows 10? I'm in the Win10 FastTrack testing ring (beta testing 2-3 months ahead of release) so I'm always chasing down snarky issues. I'm thinking of dropping that soon for the sake of sanity. I'd LOVE to get a GTX 1080, which make/model did you get? Maybe on my next full PC build after the first of the year.
As I wrote in my other thead, GTX 1080 (which I admit I bought MAINLY with Resolve in mind) also works fabulously with Vegas Pro 13.
Piotr
Piotr, what's your PC build? Are you running Windows 10? I'm in the Win10 FastTrack testing ring (beta testing 2-3 months ahead of release) so I'm always chasing down snarky issues. I'm thinking of dropping that soon for the sake of sanity. I'd LOVE to get a GTX 1080, which make/model did you get? Maybe on my next full PC build after the first of the year.
@megabit wich threat? you are saying the GTX-1080 works with GPU Acceleration on a Pascal chipset?!
As to my PC build, it used to be listed as my System #1 in the old SCS forum. Dear Magix - will we have the ability to publish our system specs in this new, great Forum as well? Please :)
For the time being, here it is:
Asus X-99 Pro/USB3.1 MoBo; i7-5960X 8-core CPU@ 4.2 GHz; RAM: 64 GB @2400; nVidia GTX 1080 8GB graphics; Decklink 4K Extreme 12G; mass storage: ADATA 480 GB SSD drive (system); 4x WD Black 3TB in RAID 0; Toshiba XG3 SSD 1TB M.2 NVMe cache drive
Interesting Bradford. My gaming adventures are largely confined to Solitaire, but it behoves us as video editors to stay in touch with what's out there. The thing I'm never sure about is - ok, the development of graphics cards is centred around all these weird 3D games, but does that automatically mean that the best for gaming is also good for us - or could it be that some features developed for gaming are detrimental to video editing?
The faster clock and memory will benefit 2D graphics. Since video is raster in nature, the only thing I can see that vegas may use of the D3D library may be for some of the vector based media generators. The 3D video editing in vegas is really just stereo raster.
As to detrimental? I don't see how there would be much, if any affected. From my experience in development of 3d games, the 3d libraries and functions are a completely different mode. Third party plugins may use more of the 3D functions but I haven't seen anything specifically within vegas that would hint that they are using the D3D or OpenGL functions. It would seem like a waste in overhead and code complexity just to try to leverage 3d functions in vegas. Like using a bulldozer to walk the dog...
Thanks Dr L. As I wrote earlier, but it seems to have disappeared, I took a punt based on Piotr's experience above and today picked up my newly installed GTX1080 as a repacement for the failed Radeon Fury. Going well so far - GPU acceleration without problems, and even though my CPU and RAM are less than Piotr's it rendered in about half real time (MC MP4)
Peter, nice! Good luck with it. I am looking at upgrading to the 1060 but I just haven't been able to convince myself yet.
Just upgrading my Radeon HD 5750 1GB to RX470 4GB.
Well, the consequences is, of course, loss the ability to Mainconcept GPU Rendering - Hopefully Vegas Pro 14 addresses this soon. But for editing, it is much faster although might not be full-speed as my mainboard is still an old Intel DX58SO2 (PCIE2), - don't want to spend too much right now.
I want the next version of VP I purchase to use fast, modern GPUs in rendering, not just on the timeline. If VP14 does that for CODECs I use (like h.264 in an .MP4), then I will upgrade for that.