When you "google" 10 best video editors..

Chris-Harwood wrote on 8/26/2021, 10:40 PM

For Windows (10)....why is Vegas never on the list?

I mean Windows movie maker, Pinnacle, DaVinci....theyre always on it. It's not like there are really more than 10 and the bottom feeders get promoted....and it just seems Magic must ask to not be on any such lists!

Years back, if you were a Windows believer, it was always Vegas, Vegas, Vegas...

I guess if you were a Sony TV "snob"....believed you had the best...you went Vegas.

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RogerS wrote on 8/26/2021, 11:01 PM

Are these pay to play advertorials or actual reviews? Companies like Filmora seem to create their own content to show up in search engines.

Reyfox wrote on 8/30/2021, 7:24 AM

I think it has a lot to do with advertising and a web "presence". Consumer editors will always get mentioned because of the cost and the sheer number of "consumer" users out that that buy the inexpensive software.

When it comes to more professional software, you will always hear about Resolve. Blackmagic Design has a massive presence in the video field and leverage their camera sales with "free" Resolve Studio. Adobe, what can be said. Their "name" presence is everywhere. And their "ecosystem" is quite strong. But you pay forever for that "privilege".

I think that Vegas has lost it's "presence" in the sense of public awareness. Honestly, Vegas was never on my editing radar until I did a Humble Bundle VP14 Edit. I knew about Vegas, thought the interface (from screen shots) was too busy and butt ugly to be bothered with. But the cost was right and I've wasted far much more money on other useless things, so figured to give it a try.

It took me actually using it to find out what I was missing. But if it weren't for the Humble Bundle, I would not be here. Neither would a good friend of mine who was trying to do something in another editor that I was able to do in a couple of minutes with Vegas. Vegas was never on his radar either. Now he too is hooked.

I think with the lower price of admission to the software, there is a possibility of getting more users. I hope so. But still, the web doesn't know about the software. That's marketing and their responsibility.

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RogerS wrote on 8/30/2021, 7:51 AM

If you look at Google search trends, Vegas actually had greater search activity than the competition a decade ago but it's been a steady slide since; on par with Filmora and above Edius but below Resolve and Premier.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore/TIMESERIES/1629427200?hl=en-US&tz=-540&date=2011-07-20+2021-08-20&q=%2Fm%2F04_679,%2Fg%2F1q5y_dyrm,%2Fm%2F043dqq,%2Fm%2F0445tf,%2Fg%2F11bxftps3q&sni=3

Dexcon wrote on 8/30/2021, 8:20 AM

Vegas actually had greater search activity than the competition a decade ago but it's been a steady slide since

Could it be that because there has increasingly been more and better free NLEs available over the last 10 years that the level of those seeking via online searches cracked/pirated versions of Vegas Pro has diminished correspondingly? If so, the decrease in search results for Vegas Pro could well be construed as a good thing.

While we will likely never know, the most important statistic are the sales figures for VP over that time period. If VP sales stats went up - particularly if substantially - the online search number loses a level of importance and thus concern.

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Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

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walter-i. wrote on 8/30/2021, 8:27 AM

Vegas actually had greater search activity than the competition a decade ago but it's been a steady slide since

Could it be that because there has increasingly been more and better free NLEs available over the last 10 years that the level of those seeking via online searches cracked/pirated versions of Vegas Pro has diminished correspondingly? If so, the decrease in search results for Vegas Pro could well be construed as a good thing.

While we will likely never know, the most important statistic are the sales figures for VP over that time period. If VP sales stats went up - particularly if substantially - the online search number loses a level of importance and thus concern.


What surprises me is that only Sony Vegas 13 appears in this evaluation and subsequent versions do not appear at all. Something seems to be wrong with the query mode.

RogerS wrote on 8/30/2021, 8:49 AM

The query isn't broken but it's affected by frequency of search hits. Dig deeper for VP 13 and it shows you this was from 2014 to 2017. The volume was high enough to show up in the overall results, which reflects the lessening interesting Vegas most likely. You can change the time period and it will change results a lot.

 

Pete wrote on 8/30/2021, 10:17 AM

If you look at Google search trends, Vegas actually had greater search activity than the competition a decade ago but it's been a steady slide since; on par with Filmora and above Edius but below Resolve and Premier.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore/TIMESERIES/1629427200?hl=en-US&tz=-540&date=2011-07-20+2021-08-20&q=%2Fm%2F04_679,%2Fg%2F1q5y_dyrm,%2Fm%2F043dqq,%2Fm%2F0445tf,%2Fg%2F11bxftps3q&sni=3

I'm sure the "Sony" name brand had a lot to do with that.

Pete wrote on 8/30/2021, 10:21 AM

I mean Windows movie maker, Pinnacle, DaVinci....

Back in '06 I used Fraps to record and WMM to edit. Then I purchased a Dazzle and only used Pinnacle Movie Studio Platinum to edit. Using Vegas followed shortly right after once I learned of Pinnacle's lack of features. It was a great move then and still a great move today.