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J_Mac wrote on 2/2/2005, 1:47 PM
Thanks for all your replies. Looking at all of the sites, and choosing the Sony60PRL; Tapestock online 50@162.00 3.24ea
Taperesources 50@174.50 3.49ea
Tape Guys 6.00 each
Edgewise 50@168.00 3.36ea
Pro-Tapes 50@149.00 2.97ea

Seems like a no brainer for me. Some sites do offer free shipping and some states you must pay tax. Thanks again for all your replies and advice. John
craftech wrote on 2/2/2005, 7:20 PM
OK I give up. Where does one find the website for Pro-Tapes? A Google search only turns up a company that sells adhesive tape.

John
Steve Mann wrote on 2/2/2005, 10:58 PM
Coursedesign: "which has 2 dB stronger signal "

2 dB stronger than... what?

dB is an analog measurement, this is a digital realm. Using analog values in a digital tape is just marketspeak to sell the more expensive tapes.

Steve Mann
riredale wrote on 2/2/2005, 11:08 PM
Yes, the data is stored as "digital" data, in the sense that the circuitry returns a series of 1's and 0's to the rest of the system. But the data is recorded as a series of magnetic reversals, a strictly analog process. I think the idea is that the more profound the transition, the less chance of errors from confusion ("...was that a positive or a negative transition?").

Also, it's my understanding that the strength of the magnetic transitions gradually fades over time, and is weaker at the LP speed than at the SP speed. So I guess the tape people can argue that their grade of tape is just "better" in several respects than the other stuff.
J_Mac wrote on 2/3/2005, 1:41 PM
crafttech, The link should get you there. The company is spelled with a hyphen, Pro-Tape.

http://www.store.yahoo.com/protape/

but not in the link. John.
scissorfighter wrote on 2/3/2005, 6:11 PM

Taperesources 50@174.50 3.49ea

Ahh, but you forgot Ecost.com, your one stop shop for everything electronic! Great service and free shipping to boot. Sony 60PRL = 10@$25.00 = $2.50 each

craftech wrote on 2/3/2005, 8:38 PM
crafttech, The link should get you there. The company is spelled with a hyphen, Pro-Tape.

http://www.store.yahoo.com/protape/

but not in the link
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Thanks John,
John
Coursedesign wrote on 2/4/2005, 1:27 PM
riredale is 100% right.

A stronger signal on the tape means a reduce risk of dropouts.

Somday we'll have data tape recording quality on this. No more dropouts, drums last 50,000 hours instead of 1,500-2,000 hours, much higher capacity, lower price.
wcoxe1 wrote on 2/5/2005, 8:02 PM
Sony consumer cams typically CAN use the "Chip" type tape. It is not required. I believe a few Panasonic units had it once upon a time. I don't know about now.

The chip has two commonly utilized uses.

1) You can tag it with a title or date or whatever that appears if you just play the tape back in the camcorder.

2) When your five year old wants to immediately see what you just shot, you can back it up, play, (repeat until she quits looking), and then press the "Find End of Tape" or what ever they call it button on the side of the camcorder. The camy then automatically backs up a ways, starts playing until it encounters the "end of the last shoot as defined by the time code recorded on the chip." It then stops at EXACTLY the end of the last shot and there is no chance of a blank spot or of erasing too much because you rewound the tape yourself. It is very fast and very accurate.

This is a feature that is very popular among people who like to review the last several scenes and don't want to botch starting in the right place when they have finished viewing.
Barry_Green wrote on 2/6/2005, 11:13 AM
"Rating sites like reseller and bizrate seem to generally be a pretty good indicator of what to expect. Don't think I've ever seen a difference in ratings like this though. 5 of 10 on one site and 8.5 of 10 on the other. They generally track pretty close"

The difference is that BizRate usually asks you to fill out the survey right after you've ordered. ResellerRatings usually doesn't come into play until the customer has received their order. So BizRate is more of a reflection of the website shopping/buying experience, whereas resellerratings is more of the total experience including shipping, actual product received, etc.