Sure, it will work. I edit 8 bit 4K Sony AVC files with a laptop with a 1050 card without proxies.

Vegas isn't that GPU optimized, so I would put the money into a better processor 32 GB ram and a SSD.

@bitman that's a good example of why blanket statements aren't a good place from which to make decisions.

Laptops can be just fine for video editing. I've been doing so with a Lenovo 720 for several years now. The only thing I miss is being able to add more memory or change the CPU. But having only 4 cores and 16G hasn't stopped me from editing 4k with intensive sfx and working around times when VP or some other program needs all the resources I have available isn't a showstopper. There are also easy ways to limit the throttling that bitman talks about. I'm regularly running at 3.4G on a 2.8G machine.

Boris FX runs their software on dell laptops without a problem.

One further benefit to a laptop is I can work outside if I desire and not miss deer and bears going by :-)

@ramana if your primary program is VP, I'd second what @RogerS said. Get as much memory and the best processor that you can afford and make the GPU a secondary concern while thinking about what you might want in the future. VP just doesn't max out the GPU. Having said that though, there are people here that tend to run multiple instances of VP when rendering. For that, you'll want a GPU with 4-6+G of ram. You may have to look carefully for a suitable laptop.

btw, you wrote "Creator i7" but perhaps you mean "Creator 17?"

Without knowing anything else about what you're doing with your video (which can be a crucial point), that machine should do 4k easily, with headroom for plenty of sfx, if that's your thing.

Rolling back to bitman's point, you *will* pay a premium for going with the Creator. If portability isn't something you will benefit from, you can get a much more powerful desktop for half that price.

I have a mobile lifestyle, so a desktop is not possible. And yes, there are a lot of inherent problems and additional expense in a laptop, but is what I have to deal with.

Sure, it will work. I edit 8 bit 4K Sony AVC files with a laptop with a 1050 card without proxies. Vegas isn't that GPU optimized, so I would put the money into a better processor 32 GB ram and a SSD

PS: I know Premiere designs their system for the use of these RTX cards. Does Sony do the same?

Do not ask Sony, ask Magix 😀

Usually these days, the only newcomers to Vegas Pro who refer to it as Sony is because they've got a pirated/cracked DL.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/sony-vegas-vs-vegas--119881/

Adapting bitman's comment, if you are so sure that it's a Sony product, direct your question to Sony.

@michael-harrison Of course you can edit on a laptop, and in 4K. I bet some even edit using an app on their smartphone or directly on their camera!

I get a mental picture of you with a laptop under your arm being chased by a bear, shouting to the bear, tossing the laptop to the bear and shouting "take my laptop not me"!

@ramana If you have a mobile lifestyle, nothing beats a laptop of course, having said that, as you said you are a beginner with 2 cameras, you will accumulate over time a lot of source material video, sound (and photos?) and rendered output, not to mention backup, this will fill your laptop very fast as they do not have the physical space to house lot's of drives. You can go cloud, but this is expensive and slow, or use external drives, which in turn is less mobile...

I'm using a Zenbook Pro Duo with VEGAS and am LOVING IT. The second screen is so useful to put effects windows, or if I want to I can put all of VEGAS down there and use the 4K OLED HDR main screen as a full screen preview. The touch screen is nice when using a stylus to make adjustments to the color grading panel wheels, or moving volume sliders up and down with my actual fingers.

As for GPU, it isn't that "VEGAS is poorly optimized" for GPUs, as my Radeon VII gives me a 3-4x framerate increase over using CPU alone, it does make a huge difference in performance. However, because VEGAS uses the GPUs' dedicated encoder and decoder chips to do rendering and timeline video decoding, and those chips are the same on the cheapest RTX card as they are on the most expensive, you're only getting advantages in timeline acceleration by buying a more expensive GPU that has more compute power. The decoder in file i/o as well as nvenc encodes are going to run at the same speed (AFAIK), I don't think those chips get any boost in performance on the more expensive cards. So, you may only get a 20-30% improvement in real world performance for buying a RTX 2080ti over a RTX 2060 (I pulled that percentage number from where the hen lays eggs, it's not an actual statistic, I'm just illustrating a point).

I'd say go mid-range with it, not the cheapest RTX card, but don't go for the gaming enthusiasts' dream card either.

I'd say go mid-range with it, not the cheapest RTX card, but don't go for the gaming enthusiasts' dream card either.

+1. That seems like sensible advice to me.

Like the OP, I recently found myself needing to go mobile, and have ordered a Lenovo Legion 7i (with rtx 2060) and I am looking forward to see how it performs vs my desktop. The 2080 max q versions are vastly more expensive, and my guess is that they are only marginally faster given the heat dissipation constraints of laptops. I am OK with compromises and workarounds - it's a laptop after all.

my understanding, as far as laptops go (which all vary according to their cooling systems), is that the 2060 max Q is only marginally faster than a GTX 1665 ti, then the next big jump up is to a 2070 Super.

Thank you, that is very helpful! That really gives me the gist of how Vegas uses the gpu. As you probably know, there are 5 tiers of the current RTX GPU's for laptops; the 2060, 2070 max q and Super, and the 2080 max q and Super BTW. Your suggestion makes me lean toward the lower end 2070, which is a full step up from the GTX 1650 ti (i just saw a comparison run on a few laptops, and the 2060 was only 4% faster than the 1650 Ti). BTW, glad you are liking the dual screen. I saw David Lee mention that because of the angle the second screen was not so easy to see, which made me look at the Zepherus dual screen, which tilted up. Then i realized that I often work on my lap, so the keyboard placement and size of the unit would be a problem for me. But I loved the idea of having an integrated second touch screen is brilliant! I travel with a portable second screen, which is harder because my eyes and cursor have to keep going back and forth. Hey, thanks for the info!

Sure, it will work. I edit 8 bit 4K Sony AVC files with a laptop with a 1050 card without proxies.

Vegas isn't that GPU optimized, so I would put the money into a better processor 32 GB ram and a SSD.

Great, that is good to know. Thanks.

@ramana If you have a mobile lifestyle, nothing beats a laptop of course, having said that, as you said you are a beginner with 2 cameras, you will accumulate over time a lot of source material video, sound (and photos?) and rendered output, not to mention backup, this will fill your laptop very fast as they do not have the physical space to house lot's of drives. You can go cloud, but this is expensive and slow, or use external drives, which in turn is less mobile...

Yes, that is right about the space, that is why I am starting with 4TB inside (two 2TB Samsung Evos, one i am pulling from my old Dell XPS). I also plan on getting a few portable 5TB hard drives (they are fairly small), so hopefully, that will be a good start.

@michael-harrison Of course you can edit on a laptop, and in 4K. I bet some even edit using an app on their smartphone or directly on their camera!

I get a mental picture of you with a laptop under your arm being chased by a bear, shouting to the bear, tossing the laptop to the bear and shouting "take my laptop not me"!

@michael-harrison Of course you can edit on a laptop, and in 4K. I bet some even edit using an app on their smartphone or directly on their camera!

I get a mental picture of you with a laptop under your arm being chased by a bear, shouting to the bear, tossing the laptop to the bear and shouting "take my laptop not me"!

Usually these days, the only newcomers to Vegas Pro who refer to it as Sony is because they've got a pirated/cracked DL.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/sony-vegas-vs-vegas--119881/

Adapting bitman's comment, if you are so sure that it's a Sony product, direct your question to Sony.

No, my software is Vegas Pro 17.0, which I upgraded recently from my Sony Vegas 12 (which was upgraded from my Sony Vegas 9). I actually did try to crack an adobe product once, but there were gen keys and seemed no matter what i did I could not get it to work (kept going to a trial version). So I just stayed with my older adobe suite (they have gone to an expensive monthly format, which feel is a rip-off, which is why I am staying with sony (or magix?) and not premiere..

I just saw the review a while what a beautiful machine! They shipping those now? That was one of the three laptops I was narrowing down to. Yeah, looks like the 2080 Super model is going for $3000 !!! Is there a reason you went with a gaming laptop rather than a creator's laptop?

They are shipping, but almost constantly sold out.

I "guess" (once again) that a gamers laptop is a better fit for video editing as both can have heavy loads that produce a lot of cpu/gpu heat that needs to be dealt with. A very thin laptop would struggle with this. The newer designs use a vapour chamber cooling system that apparently outperforms traditional copper heat pipes.

Keep in mind that these are marketing categories only, so the precise configuration details are important. The Legion 7i has a bright HDR 400 nit colour accurate (relatively) screen. I also wanted thunderbolt 3 in case I hookup fast storage or perhaps an eGPU in the future.

@michael-harrison (this is my first forum, i just realized how to put a person's tagline in)...I plan on getting the MSI Creator 15 (with an 10th gen, 6 core intel i7 ,

@michael If I go with the RTX 2060, it is going to run me $1500 before i upgrade the ssd (which i know that you can do much more with a desktop for that price). Thanks for the info. I am a meditation teacher, and I have been shooting and editing simple head-shot videos with my Sony camcorder (which is why i started with sony vegas 9 many years ago; everything was compatible). But I plan on starting a youtube channel and a vlog and create online courses, so I bought a Lumix g95 and gopro, and upgraded to VP 17.

Although I am not planning on going to Premiere, just wondering, does Adobe make much better use of the GPU in their software than VP. And if yes, does that put VP at a disadvantage?

@ramana  Could you please avoid quoting the entire (or most of the ) thread? It is too hard to follow this way. Thanks!

It will be interesting to see how the mobile variants (including max q versions) scale. I have a feeling that they do not scale well due to heat & power limitations and thus the differences are relatively small both between mobile gpu's and Resolve (GPU centric) vs Vegas (relatively more CPU centric.)

Anyone have any anecdotal evidence that you get a big boost in ANY NLE from using a mobile rtx 2080 max Q? Or any thoughts about connecting a desktop GPU in an eGPU box over thunderbolt?

@ramana  Could you please avoid quoting the entire (or most of the ) thread? It is too hard to follow this way. Thanks!

I've tried tidying it up.

Ah, that's better. Thanks mate!