Which RTX card to buy for a laptop that will work best with VP?

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ramana wrote on 7/26/2020, 11:59 AM

Manufactors are only putting these chips in the low end plastic laptops with low quality screens, cheap build quality, bad trackpads and/or keyboards, no thunderbolt and low end RTX cards. The first company that puts AMD into their top tier laptops are going to OWN the market. Until then, at least for me anyway, it's Intel.

Kinvermark wrote on 7/26/2020, 1:58 PM

+1. That's what I discovered too. If you want thunderbolt and / or higher level GPU then you have to go with an intel configuration for now (NOTE: WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT LAPTOPS). Also note that the Puget benchmark graphs are for desktop GPU's, not mobile or max-Q.

TheRhino wrote on 7/26/2020, 9:40 PM

In January I got a $1000 Walmart Evoo 17 with 17" 144hz screen, 6-core I7-9750H CPU, 16GB Ram, standard RTX 2060 GPU, 1TB M.2, slot for 2nd M.2, and room for a (3rd) SSD SATA drive. I also got my son a HP Omen 15 with same CPU but 1660 GPU. The HP shuts-down the internal iGPU whereas the Evoo allows Vegas to use both which is what my 9900K workstation does... Because of this & fact that the 2060 is faster than the 1660, even with the same CPU mine renders-out HEVC & MP4 faster. The render speeds from my Evoo are posted on the Benchmark forum but I didn't keep track of the HP Omen scores, only that it was noticeably slower...

Workstation C with $600 USD of upgrades in April, 2021
--$360 11700K @ 5.0ghz
--$200 ASRock W480 Creator (onboard 10G net, TB3, etc.)
Borrowed from my 9900K until prices drop:
--32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3200 ($100 on Black Friday...)
Reused from same Tower Case that housed the Xeon:
--Used VEGA 56 GPU ($200 on eBay before mining craze...)
--Noctua Cooler, 750W PSU, OS SSD, LSI RAID Controller, SATAs, etc.

Performs VERY close to my overclocked 9900K (below), but at stock settings with no tweaking...

Workstation D with $1,350 USD of upgrades in April, 2019
--$500 9900K @ 5.0ghz
--$140 Corsair H150i liquid cooling with 360mm radiator (3 fans)
--$200 open box Asus Z390 WS (PLX chip manages 4/5 PCIe slots)
--$160 32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3000 (added another 32GB later...)
--$350 refurbished, but like-new Radeon Vega 64 LQ (liquid cooled)

Renders Vegas11 "Red Car Test" (AMD VCE) in 13s when clocked at 4.9 ghz
(note: BOTH onboard Intel & Vega64 show utilization during QSV & VCE renders...)

Source Video1 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 on motherboard in RAID0
Source Video2 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 (1) via U.2 adapter & (1) on separate PCIe card
Target Video1 = 32TB RAID0--(4) 8TB SATA hot-swap drives on PCIe RAID card with backups elsewhere

10G Network using used $30 Mellanox2 Adapters & Qnap QSW-M408-2C 10G Switch
Copy of Work Files, Source & Output Video, OS Images on QNAP 653b NAS with (6) 14TB WD RED
Blackmagic Decklink PCie card for capturing from tape, etc.
(2) internal BR Burners connected via USB 3.0 to SATA adapters
Old Cooler Master CM Stacker ATX case with (13) 5.25" front drive-bays holds & cools everything.

Workstations A & B are the 2 remaining 6-core 4.0ghz Xeon 5660 or I7 980x on Asus P6T6 motherboards.

$999 Walmart Evoo 17 Laptop with I7-9750H 6-core CPU, RTX 2060, (2) M.2 bays & (1) SSD bay...

Former user wrote on 7/26/2020, 9:58 PM

Because the hp omen 15 has cpu gpu disabled and evoo 17 does not, it could be doing that to reduce thermal throttle, and the real reason evoo 17 is faster is due to better cooling and it being able to maintain higher cpu frequency. The following tests that idea, although equally could be GPU

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/66427/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-

bitman wrote on 7/27/2020, 12:31 AM

Interesting post, but the title is a bit misleading, it should sound something like what is the best laptop for Vegas...

Just word of caution, internal GPU cards for laptops, for example RTX 2060 are clocked significantly lower than the "same" desktop variants (battery power, heat and laptops, you know the drill...), expect about a 10% real life performance drop.

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 suite (VP 22 build 250) VP 21 build 315, VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 17 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2025, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 18, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner studio X, DXO photolab (8), Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 24H2 (since October 2024)
  • CPU: i9-13900K with Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 G2 HBC
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 Aorus Xtreme WF AIO 32GB
  • Monitor: LG UltraGear 45GX950A 44.5" WUHD 5K2K OLED monitor (21:9), Resolution: 5120x2160, 165 Hz
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

adis-a3097 wrote on 7/27/2020, 2:06 AM

Um, are you guys making money using laptops? Congrats if yes!

ramana wrote on 7/27/2020, 3:36 AM

Ha! trying... I understand it takes about 18 months to build a good subscriber base on youtube. It's a good thing I have a real job!

ramana wrote on 7/27/2020, 3:51 AM

@bitman I changed the title of the thread to make it more accurate. re: 10% estimate is pretty low from desktop variance. Below is from Hardware Unboxed three days ago. On average, the difference in variance comes somewhere between 15 to 35 percent (which is still a lot). But Jerrad's point, like your warning, is to be aware the same name GPU in a laptop could be as much as to two steps down from the desk variance (the wattage to the card seems to be one of the biggest factors). So this is something you can check to make sure you can close the gap through knowledge. Bob of All Trades recently made the point that a 2080 desktop can be made for half the price for a laptop. He ended by saying, "but I am a laptop guy." I guess I am too, out of necessity. Thanks for the heads up.