Why should keyframing my titles be completely different?
Why does the right mouse button do nothing, unlike virtually every other tool in Vegas?
Why is there only one way to close the Curves, Collection, Effects and Gradients window that is covering up my text?
Why does double-clicking any of these not get you anywhere?
The keyframing in ProType Titler is much slicker and more powerful than before. Bezier curves on the keyframes have been missing from Vegas for a long time and finally we have them - maybe not everywhere but in the most relevant place, for making really smooth title / logo fly-in type motion.
I really like what they've created. The ProType Titler interface is really nice and easy to use. I love how it moves around as you select text so you don't have to do much panning and zooming. The output is very high quality too. I got smooth animation without having to use supersampling right out of the box.
But it's brand new and it has problems. Some seem unbelievable, like not being able to edit black text effectively? No way to copy/paste multiple keyframes for duplicating animation?
Workflow inconsistencies as compared to the rest of Vegas:
- CTRL+Z / UNDO function resets animation cursor to start - very frustrating when trying to create animation
- CTRL+Z / UNDO function resets zoom position of Text window - frustrating when trying to position / resize elements
* Black text is invisible in ProType interface - very frustrating when trying to make edits to existing text (edit: NEVER MIND THE PREVIEW BACKGROUND COLOR IS RIGHT OUT FRONT - duh)
- No way to copy / paste multiple keyframes (single keyframes have to be done manually by copy/pasting the value from the actual parameter)
* no "Scale about center" modifier [edit: OOPS JUST USE THE TOP/SIDE ANCHORS INSTEAD OF CORNERS - THX DAVE]
- no dropper to set gradient colors with color picker like other Sony gradient tool (dropper also missing from font color selector)
- no Microsoft/standard selection protocol (double click to select current word, double click and drag to select word-by-word)
- Safe frame guides are hard to see against black background
Wish list for workflow improvements (ProType 2.0?):
- change font/color/style without entering text edit mode
- multiple text-box selection for changing properties across multiple text boxes
- "auto-keyframe" mode (also known as "Animation" mode), which would automatically add appropriate keyframes whenever parameters are changed, eliminating the need to manually enable animation tracks individually.
All in all it's cool. There are no show stoppers and I can see this as being easy to teach others. Very commendable for such a sophisticated product. But I hope they fix those workflow problems that make it seem to not quite fit into Vegas.
This all supports the assumption that the titler was made by someone else. And the fact that the titler is not covered in the manual, only the online help, says it was rather recently finished, too. Which is okay by me. I'm an old customer and I know they will incorporate it better next time and get rid of the inconsistencies. They wanted Vegas8 out now and the got it out now. Thanks for that. Even my feeble internet connection here in Madagascar obliged by allowing me to download the beast in less than a day and a night.
Know nothing of LiveType, but I've got half a dozen examples of text popping and accordianizing and flashing like neon and glowing and bouncing on one page and I've just scratched the surface.
My first impression is that ProType is powerful and gets the creative juices flowing.
Did the guys in Madison build it?
Don't know but the more I play with it the more I think so, 'cause its getting to be fun.
Compared to Cayman Graphics this program has a more organic feel, even if it doesn't have a Vegas workflow.
Not trying to be a Fanboy here, but I have to say I like it.
First impressions are that there are lots of good things here (the OpenType support alone will save me a lot of visits to InDesign and Photoshop) but the user interface is hopelessly non-standard (typical of neither Windows nor Vegas), it's muddled, inefficient, and hardly self-explanatory. The documentation is completely inadequate.
There are also too many bugs...
I should be more pleased but can't help feeling disappointed. I can't believe the SCS user interface people (i.e. those behind Vegas' extraordinary elegance) aren't shuddering when they look at this.
I'll post more detailed complaints (and list some bugs) when I have a bit more time.
Maybe when the 64bit version is released we'll get a refresh of ProTitler to fix some of the "rush to market" feel. Too much to hope for?
And by the way, for editing black text, what about the preview properties that first come up upon opening a new instance of ProTitler? Is that not working for you? You can set the preview inside ProTitler to a black, white, or custom background color. Doesn't affect the preview back in the vegas timeline.
please there is so much customizability with this titler, I have absolutely zero complaints. So it takes a little getting used to, don't like it, just go ahead and use the old one. but the fact that I can turn off and on key framing for each adjustment. I love that. and the parent child relationships in text - that's friggen awesome. Just give it some time (as will I) and perhaps I won't like it any more (but I'm pretty sure that's not the case). I'll most likely be gettin all crazy with the pro type titler :)
anyway - just give it some time and give it more than a day, (give yourself some base to complain from or find out that you like it)
Re the interface that doesn't look like anything else, have you noticed that the interface is very very similar to the look of the velvet matter plug-ins (you may not have noticed this if you don't have those plug-ins, which I highly suggest by the way). Anyway - I installed the latest plug-ins today from velvet matter since i saw that they had the Vegas Pro 8 plugs available, checked to make sure they were working in 32bit mode, and BAM it hit me, they look like the pro-type titler.