As i join a news channel as a video editor, where all editors are using Adobe Premier except me.
i am using VEGAS alone.
bcoz most of files MOV rendered in Adobe Premier.
and some are not importable in VEGAS.
even i converted in Shutter Encoder.
please check three files
Original (They given me to use),
QT animation (converted in SE)
Apple ProRes (converted in SE)
https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/b47ea66f-fece-4b35-aeed-3fb09b101645
please guide me if there is any solution.
Thanks in Advance
for RLE need to activate depreciated QT plugin and turn on alpha channel in media properties
The ProRes one opened for me. This is probably your best option.
The other two would probably require QuickTime to be installed and turned on on the Options - Preferences - Deprecated Features tab. I don't have QT installed to test that.
What is MediaInfo for the original file? https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/
Are they willing to use MagicYUV to share files with you? It works great in VEGAS.
@iEmby They open & work perfectly fine for me..... Yes, i have Quicktime installed and activated in the Deprecated tab.
If i were the only editor using Vegas Pro, while all the others are using Premier Pro.....it would be an honor for me, and i would relish in it. Especially due to the fact that i would have finished renders sent out faster than everybody else.
If your source files from Premier have an alpha channel you will need to convert to Apple Pro Res 4444 if you don't chose to install Apple Quicktime.
You'll take a 3X hit to file size.
@iEmby Hi, all open & work no problem, I also have Quicktime installed and activated in the Deprecated tab.
But the Apple ProRes won't give me an alpha channel & is distorted because it loads @ 1.0926 (PAL DV), changing it to 1.0000 corrects the aspect but still no alpha.
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@iEmby They opened and worked perfectly fine for me as well. All 3 MOV files. Yes, I also have Quicktime installed and activated in the Deprecated tab and also under Internal option, I set to FALSE the option "Show warning for media which is not suited for editing".
But the Apple ProRes won't give me an alpha channel & is distorted because it loads @ 1.0926 (PAL DV), changing it to 1.0000 corrects the aspect but still no alpha.
As @Gid pointed out, I also did that too.
ok i installed quicktime and try again ,,,.. and this is happening,
I tried almost all necessary or unnecessary settings
Media info of the original file
General Complete name : D:\#L-Bands\Graphics\CIRCLE_Adobe Render (ORG).mov Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : QuickTime Codec ID : qt 2005.03 (qt ) File size : 11.6 MiB Duration : 10 s 0 ms Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 9 734 kb/s Frame rate : 25.000 FPS Encoded date : 2018-04-05 08:09:39 UTC Tagged date : 2018-04-05 08:09:42 UTC Writing library : Apple QuickTime TIM : 00:00:00:00 TSC : 25 TSZ : 1 Video ID : 1 Format : RLE Format/Info : Run-length encoding Codec ID : rle Duration : 10 s 0 ms Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 8 895 kb/s Width : 720 pixels Height : 576 pixels Display aspect ratio : 5:4 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 25.000 FPS Standard : PAL Color space : RGBA Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.858 Stream size : 10.6 MiB (91%) Language : English Encoded date : 2018-04-05 08:09:39 UTC Tagged date : 2018-04-05 08:09:39 UTC Other ID : 2 Type : Time code Format : QuickTime TC Duration : 10 s 0 ms Frame rate : 25.000 FPS Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00 Time code of last frame : 00:00:09:24 Time code, stripped : Yes Language : English Encoded date : 2018-04-05 08:09:39 UTC Tagged date : 2018-04-05 08:09:39 UTC
But the Apple ProRes won't give me an alpha channel &
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@iEmby As I wrote & @Thiago_Sase confirmed Apple ProRes wouldn't give me an alpha channel.
This is the Quicktime I have installed https://support.apple.com/en-gb/106375
Probably the best approach is to convert everything to Apple Pro Res 4444 in Shutter Encoder and avoid the confusion of Quicktime.
After enabling Quicktime plugin in deprecated features and setting event properties to alpha channel as follows
I could import the original mov file without issues. No need for conversions with shutter encoder. When time is money, this is probably the fastest and easiest way.
BTW conversion with SE like @john_dennis showed, didn't gave me an alpha channel.
It clearly works for me in Vegas 21 and 22.
Complete name : F:\AQT\CIRCLE_Adobe Render (ORG)_Apple_ProRes_4444.mov Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : QuickTime Codec ID : qt 0000.02 (qt ) File size : 31.2 MiB Duration : 10 s 0 ms Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 26.1 Mb/s Frame rate : 25.000 FPS Encoded date : 2024-10-16 18:39:09 UTC Tagged date : 2024-10-16 18:39:09 UTC Writing application : Lavf61.5.101 Video ID : 1 Format : ProRes Format version : Version 1 Format profile : 4444 Codec ID : ap4h Duration : 10 s 0 ms Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 26.1 Mb/s Width : 720 pixels Height : 576 pixels Display aspect ratio : 5:4 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 25.000 FPS Standard : PAL Chroma subsampling : 4:4:4 Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.522 Stream size : 31.2 MiB (100%) Writing library : Apple Language : English Encoded date : 2024-10-16 18:39:09 UTC Tagged date : 2024-10-16 18:39:09 UTC Other ID : 2 Type : Time code Format : QuickTime TC Duration : 10 s 0 ms Frame rate : 25.000 FPS Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00 Time code of last frame : 00:00:09:24 Time code, stripped : Yes Language : English Default : No Encoded date : 2024-10-16 18:39:09 UTC Tagged date : 2024-10-16 18:39:09 UTC
It's a bit messed up this thread, Adobe Render.mov & Animation QT.mov both show an alpha channel without problems, Apple ProRes.mov doesn't show the alpha.
Adobe Render.mov is the one @3POINT shows in his pic, @john_dennis shows his converted Adobe Render (ORG)_Apple_ProRes_4444.mov), @iEmby shows Apple ProRes.mov in his video but shows Adobe Render.mov in the MediaInfo. 🤷♂️🤯
@john_dennis My fault, I missed a 4 when converting with SE to ProRes. So I converted to Pro Res 444 instead of Pro Res 4444...mea culpa..
@Gid I showed the CIRCLE_Adobe Render (ORG).mov file, which I understood is the Original File.
@3POINT Hi, yep I understand, it's just everyone seems to be discussing different files, @iEmby stated Original (They given me to use) but it isn't exactly clear which file he's struggling with in the initial post because he's inc his converted versions, 👍
Original (They given me to use),
QT animation (converted in SE)
Apple ProRes (converted in SE)
It seems that 'Adobe Render.mov' (Original (They given me to use)) works for everyone who's enabled QT except the OP who is showing 'Apple ProRes (converted in SE)' in his video, I think it's just him getting mixed up with this bit. Using the Original Adobe Render.mov & enabling QT would've been the simple fix.
thanx everyone for try my files...
i am still getting that result what i stated in my last screen recording.
i don't know why this is happening.
bcoz some files which are mov are working in my Office Vegas perfectly even without enabling quick time and some files like these ones are not working even after every try...
will try once more time next day at office.
if i got it fixed then ok otherwise will create my own animation in VEGAS.
THANKS.,
There are two workable options on the table.
* I resist loading Quicktime until someone holds a gun to my head.
** Only Apple Pro Res 4444 and 4444 XQ support alpha channel (transparency).
@iEmby then the ones that "work" are a different file format. What is the MediaInfo on the ones that do work? And why can't everyone use that format instead (unless those don't have or require transparency?)
You have a workable solution for this one you said didn't work. Install QuickTime. Then in VEGAS go to Options - Preferences - Deprecated Features and turn on "QuickTime" there. That's all that's needed to make the "original" file work (but does come with some disadvantages.) If you have time, converting to Apple Pro Res 4444 would be the better option.
Probably the best approach is to convert everything to Apple Pro Res 4444 in Shutter Encoder and avoid the confusion of Quicktime.
On a modest machine such as my old i5 Intel, ProRes 444 just gums up the works in Vegas.
I edit smooth as silk with my many hours of ProRes 422 conversions, and it looks just as good, as even the smaller ProRes container is still overkill for our 4:2:0 source.
ok its 4444 is working good